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17 Nov 19, 12:45 AM
Choong: Dear Fabio,

You do not need initiation to begin Dorje Shugden practice. For more information, you may refer to this website: http://www.dorjeshugden.org/
17 Nov 19, 12:44 AM
Choong: Dear Fabio,
16 Nov 19, 02:36 PM
Fabio: Good morning. Sahadana dorje shunden is possible practice whidauth attautement?
16 Nov 19, 02:26 PM
Fabio: Sahadana is possible whitaut auttatement?
16 Nov 19, 02:25 PM
Fabio: Good morning. Is possible practice this sahadana dorje shugden whidaut initiation?
16 Nov 19, 12:57 PM
Joy: Next week’s blog chat topic is… Shakyashri Bhadra: The Last Abbot of Nalanda
https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/great-lamas-masters/shakyashri-bhadra-the-last-abbot-of-nalanda.html

16 Nov 19, 12:39 PM
Pastor Adeline: A5. I admire Tagore's spirit of compassion and mercy of the Buddha as well as his establishment of the university complex at Santiniketan. Tagore's spirit through this university continues to influence the mass even after his passing. The university continues to produce many distinguished artists, writers, and humanitarians until today.
16 Nov 19, 12:33 PM
Pastor Adeline: A4. The event that indicated that Tagore was not attached to honour was the event in 1918 when he was caught in the political turmoil. When the British government issued the Rowlatt Act that allowed certain political cases to be tried without a jury and/ or imprisonment of the subjects without trial.

The Rowlatt Act provoked dissatisfaction amongst Indians and resulted in strong protests from all over India. On April 13, 1919, a crowd of non-violent protesters gathered in Jallianwala Bagh to protest the Rowlatt Act. The British Indian Army, under the leadership of Colonel Reginald Dyer, fired mercilessly at the protesters and killed hundreds of people in the process. In protest of this unimaginable cruelty, Tagore chose to renounce the knighthood that was conferred upon him by the British crown in 1915.
16 Nov 19, 12:31 PM
Pastor Adeline: A3. Tagore's Gitanjali (the Songs of Offering), a collection of 157 poems on themes of spirituality, nature, complicated human emotions, and suffering brought him much success, acclaim, and earned him a Nobel Prize in 1913.

Tagore became known as “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental” after meeting the Irish poet, W.B. Yeats who was drawn to the devotional and religious nature of the Tagore’s poetry that pervaded all class distinctions, backgrounds, and nationalities. W.B. Yeats praised Tagore in the circles where he had influence. By the time Tagore returned to Britain after his overseas tour to the United States, he had become “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental.”
16 Nov 19, 12:27 PM
Pastor Adeline: A2. Tagore’s vision and ideas about education were to encourage children to grow into responsible, sensible, and mature individuals. Tagore did not agree and had reservations about teaching students within a crammed four-wall classroom because he believed that the walls represented the conditioning of the mind. He believed that children should be taught beneath the open skies, under the cool shade of trees, that teachers should not limit themselves and not be afraid to borrow ideas from various sources, come up with their own hypotheses, and be forward-thinking, open-minded, and willing to learn new things as they taught. When his first education venture Patha Bhavana was met with financial constraints, Tagore sold one of his personal properties in Puri, and his wife sold her jewelry to pay for the expenses of Patha Bhavana, Tagore’s education venture.
16 Nov 19, 12:17 PM
Pastor Shin: Thank you Valentina for moderating. See everyone next week!
16 Nov 19, 12:17 PM
P Lanse: Thank you RInpoche, Valentina and everyone.
16 Nov 19, 12:15 PM
Valentina_moderator: Dear all, we have come to the end of our blog chat session. I would like to thank you for participating in this chat session and don't forget to do your dedication ya.. Hope to chat with you again next week
16 Nov 19, 12:14 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Lanse
16 Nov 19, 12:14 PM
P Lanse: 5. To me, the most impactful achievements by Rabindranath is the establishment of the university complex at Santiniketan as the influence of this work does not end after his passing, it still continues to produce many distinguished artists, writers, and humanitarians until today.
16 Nov 19, 12:13 PM
Joy: Thank you Rinpoche for having this platform for us to learn. Thank you Valentina for moderating today's blog chat. See you guys next week.
16 Nov 19, 12:11 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Joy. You can read more about Mahatma Gandhi in this article: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/inspiration-worthy-words/mahatma-gandhi-the-great-soul.html
16 Nov 19, 12:09 PM
Joy: 5. According to you, among Rabindranath’s many achievements, which one made the most impacts? Why?

I think out of the many achievements, I like the fact that he admired the spirit of compassion and mercy of Lord Buddha. He delivered a lecture at the Mahabodhi Society in Calcutta during the anniversary of Lord Buddha’s birth, where he expressed his personal feelings on Lord Buddha. The lecture was later published in Provasi, a Bengali journal, under the title Buddhadeva (Lord Buddha). In his various poems, essays, lectures, and novel, Rabindranath used superlative words to describe Lord Buddha such as “an eminent or distinguished personage” (mahäpuruSah), “the most excellent human being” (sarvasresthamänava), “great serene” (mahäsänta), “the chief of men” (narottama), “most sacred” (mahäpunya), “most peaceful (mahäkSema), “the compassionate one” (karunämaya), “the illimitable light” (amitäbha), “the greatest monk” (mahäbhikSu), and so forth.
Another thing that stood out for me was his friendship with Mahatma Gandhi.In 1914, Rabindranath met with Mahatma Gandhi for the first time when one of Rabindranath’s best friends, C.F. Andrews, brought students from Phoenix School in South Africa to Santiniketan. Upon observing the life in Santiniketan, Gandhi suggested that the daily chores were to be done by the students, and not by the servants. Rabindranath agreed with the idea, and since then, Gandhi Punyaha is celebrated in Santiniketan through self-service on March 10. This shows he me he is a true spiritual Guru that has no bias.
16 Nov 19, 12:09 PM
Yee Yin: 5. According to you, among Rabindranath’s many achievements, which one made the most impacts? Why?
Ans: His idea of and his passion for education. Education is very important to help to grow talents for the country. His idea of education emphasises creativity and taking responsibility which are very important values to instill in the next generation of leaders.
16 Nov 19, 12:09 PM
Valentina_moderator: This is the link to download Rabindranath's Gitanjali - https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/RabinBook4.pdf
16 Nov 19, 12:08 PM
Valentina_moderator: Rinpoche liked to share about great man like Rabindranath Tagore to inspire and show us that there are so many things in life that we can achieve :)
16 Nov 19, 12:07 PM
Valentina_moderator: We will wait until 12:15 pm to give a chance for others to answer the questions :)
16 Nov 19, 12:06 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin. If you are interested, you can download Gitanjali in the download section of the Rabindranath Tagore article :)
16 Nov 19, 12:06 PM
Pastor Shin: A5. For me, I think it was his most notable work, Gitanjali (the Songs of Offering), a collection of 157 poems on themes of spirituality, nature, complicated human emotions, and suffering. It established his reputation as a mystic in the Western world and in 1912, Rabindranath went to England and showed his translated works to prominent European writers such as William Butler Yeats, Robert Bridges, Thomas Sturge Moore, Ezra Pound, and Ernest Rhys. His works were well-received and won critical acclaim from these writers. His books continues to inspire many till today and will continue into the future.
16 Nov 19, 12:05 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Adeline and Pastor Lanse
16 Nov 19, 12:05 PM
Valentina_moderator: Interesting fact about Rabindranath - Rabindranath composed over 2,230 songs during his lifetime, including the national anthem of India, ‘Jana Gana Mana’, and the national anthem of Bangladesh ‘Amar Sonar Bangla’.
16 Nov 19, 12:04 PM
Valentina_moderator: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/chat-pictures/chat-9rpfg8h0k1401.jpg - Rabindranath played the lead role in the premier of his first Bengali opera, Valmiki Pratibha
16 Nov 19, 12:04 PM
Pastor Adeline: A1. Rabindranath Tagore established himself as a visionary when he wrote his essay, Swadeshi Samaj, where he elaborated his ideas on programs that included village cooperative movements, mass education, and local self-governance to instill the spirit of self-reliance among the Bengali villagers, to rejuvenate their lives and give them hope.

Although this visionary idea did not receive much support initially, the challenging circumstances did not deter him. Rabindranath experimented with rural reconstruction at his family estate. Later in 1912, Rabindranath bought a large manor and the surrounding land in Surul and established the Institute of Rural Reconstruction to realize his ideas.
16 Nov 19, 12:03 PM
P Lanse: 4. In 1919, Rabindranath renounced his knighthood in protest of the Jallianwala Bagh Massacre, during which a crowd of non-violent protesters and Sikh pilgrims were brutally fired upon by the British Indian Army. It shows that he was not attached to honour.
16 Nov 19, 11:56 AM
P Lanse: 3. Rabindranath won a Nobel Prize in Literature for Gitanjali. W.B. Yeats W.B. Yeats, who was by then an established poet in London cultural’s scene, was drawn to the devotional and religious nature of the Rabindranath’s poetry that pervaded all class distinctions, backgrounds, and nationalities. He praised Rabindranath in the circles where he had influence. By the time Rabindranath returned to Britain, he had become “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental”.
16 Nov 19, 11:56 AM
Valentina_moderator: 5. According to you, among Rabindranath’s many achievements, which one made the most impacts? Why?
16 Nov 19, 11:56 AM
Valentina_moderator: 4. What event in Rabindranath’s life indicated that he was not attached to honor?

The event that indicated that Rabindranath was not attached to honor was the event in 1918 when Rabindranath was caught in the political turmoil. When the British government issued the Rowlatt Act that allowed certain political cases to be tried without a jury and/ or imprisonment of the subjects without trial.

The Rowlatt Act provoked dissatisfaction amongst Indians and resulted in strong protests from all over India. On April 13, 1919, a crowd of non-violent protesters gathered in Jallianwala Bagh to protest the Rowlatt Act. The British Indian Army, under the leadership of Colonel Reginald Dyer, fired mercilessly at the protesters and killed hundreds of people in the process. In protest of this unimaginable cruelty, Rabindranath chose to renounce the knighthood that was conferred upon him by the British crown in 1915.
16 Nov 19, 11:55 AM
Valentina_moderator: Ok last question of the day...
16 Nov 19, 11:55 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Joy, Pastor Shin, and Yee Yin - Your answers are correct. Rabindranath did not hesitate to renounce his knighthood when the British fired on the non-violent protesters
16 Nov 19, 11:54 AM
Yee Yin: 4. What event in Rabindranath’s life indicated that he was not attached to honor?
Ans: Back in India in 1918, Rabindranath was caught in more political turmoil. While activists under the leadership of Mahatma Gandhi were negotiating to gain swaraj (self-rule) from the British, a group of youths was initiating an armed revolution to gain their freedom from Britain. The British established the Rowlatt Committee to investigate and report on the subject, which resulted in the Rowlatt Act that allowed certain political cases to be tried without a jury and/or imprisonment of the subjects without trial.

The Rowlatt Act provoked dissatisfaction amongst Indians, and resulted in strong protests from all over India. On April 13, 1919, a crowd of non-violent protesters gathered in Jallianwala Bagh to protest the Rowlatt Act. The British Indian Army, under the leadership of Colonel Reginald Dyer, fired mercilessly at the protesters and killed hundreds of people in the process. In protest of this unimaginable cruelty, Rabindranath chose to renounce the knighthood that was conferred upon him by the British crown in 1915.
16 Nov 19, 11:54 AM
Pastor Shin: A4. On April 13, 1919, a crowd of non-violent protesters gathered in Jallianwala Bagh to protest the Rowlatt Act that allowed certain political cases to be tried without a jury and/or imprisonment of the subjects without trial. The British Indian Army, under the leadership of Colonel Reginald Dyer, fired mercilessly at the protesters and killed hundreds of people in the process. In protest of this unimaginable cruelty, Rabindranath chose to renounce the knighthood that was conferred upon him by the British crown in 1915 in a famous letter to Lord Chelmsford, saying that he "wish to stand, shorn of all special distinctions, by the side of those of my countrymen, who, for their so-called insignificance, are liable to suffer degradation not fit for human beings".
16 Nov 19, 11:53 AM
Joy: 4. What event in Rabindranath’s life indicated that he was not attached to honor?

- The Rowlatt Act provoked dissatisfaction amongst Indians, and resulted in strong protests from all over India. On April 13, 1919, a crowd of non-violent protesters gathered in Jallianwala Bagh to protest the Rowlatt Act.

- The British Indian Army, under the leadership of Colonel Reginald Dyer, fired mercilessly at the protesters and killed hundreds of people in the process. In protest of this unimaginable cruelty, Rabindranath chose to renounce the knighthood that was conferred upon him by the British crown in 1915 in a famous letter to Lord Chelmsford.
16 Nov 19, 11:49 AM
Valentina_moderator: Hint for question no 4 answer - Rowlatt Act :D
16 Nov 19, 11:45 AM
Valentina_moderator: Please proceed to question no. 4
16 Nov 19, 11:43 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Joy and Chris. And Thank you Chris for your additional answer :)
16 Nov 19, 11:43 AM
Joy: 3. Which one of Rabindranath writing won him an international acclaim? How he became known as “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental”?

- In 1910, he published his most notable work, Gitanjali (the Songs of Offering), a collection of 157 poems on themes of spirituality, nature, complicated human emotions, and suffering. Gitanjali was translated into English in 1912 and this book brought Rabindranath great success and international acclaim, which earned him the Nobel Prize in 1913.
- Just like others of Rabindranath’s Western admirers, W.B. Yeats was drawn to the devotional and religious nature of the Rabindranath’s poetry that pervaded all class distinctions, backgrounds, and nationalities. After his fateful meeting with Rabindranath on July 7, 1912, Rabindranath went to the United States to deliver a series of lectures at Harvard University. During his absence, W.B. Yeats, who was by then an established poet in London cultural’s scene, praised Rabindranath in the circles where he had influence. By the time Rabindranath returned to Britain, he had become “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental”.
16 Nov 19, 11:43 AM
Chris: Additional Answer 3: Just like others of Rabindranath’s Western admirers, W.B. Yeats was drawn to the devotional and religious nature of the Rabindranath’s poetry that pervaded all class distinctions, backgrounds, and nationalities. After his fateful meeting with Rabindranath on July 7, 1912, Rabindranath went to the United States to deliver a series of lectures at Harvard University. During his absence, W.B. Yeats, who was by then an established poet in London cultural’s scene, praised Rabindranath in the circles where he had influence. By the time Rabindranath returned to Britain, he had become “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental”.
16 Nov 19, 11:42 AM
Chris: Rabindranath continued his career as a prolific writer. In 1910, he published his most notable work, Gitanjali (the Songs of Offering), a collection of 157 poems on themes of spirituality, nature, complicated human emotions, and suffering. Gitanjali was translated into English in 1912 and brought Rabindranath much success, acclaim, and earned him a Nobel Prize in 1913. One year after the India Society published the English version of Gitanjali, the book would be reprinted over a dozen times in the subsequent 12 months alone. Another of his notable and popular works is Galpaguchchha, a collection of 61 short stories on illiteracy, femininity, marriage, and poverty.
16 Nov 19, 11:41 AM
Valentina_moderator: 4. What event in Rabindranath’s life indicated that he was not attached to honor?
16 Nov 19, 11:41 AM
Valentina_moderator: Next question...
16 Nov 19, 11:41 AM
Valentina_moderator: 3. Which one of Rabindranath writing won him an international acclaim? How he became known as “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental”?

Gitanjali (the Songs of Offering), a collection of 157 poems on themes of spirituality, nature, complicated human emotions, and suffering brought Rabindranath much success, acclaim, and earned him a Nobel Prize in 1913.

Rabindranath became known as “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental” after meeting the Irish poet, W.B. Yeats who was drawn to the devotional and religious nature of the Rabindranath’s poetry that pervaded all class distinctions, backgrounds, and nationalities. W.B. Yeats praised Rabindranath in the circles where he had influence. By the time Rabindranath returned to Britain after his overseas tour to the United States, he had become “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental.”
16 Nov 19, 11:41 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin and Yee Yin
16 Nov 19, 11:40 AM
Yee Yin: 3. Which one of Rabindranath writing won him an international acclaim? How he became known as “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental”?
Ans: Gitanjali earned Rabindranath a Nobel Prize in 1913.

Just like others of Rabindranath’s Western admirers, W.B. Yeats was drawn to the devotional and religious nature of the Rabindranath’s poetry that pervaded all class distinctions, backgrounds, and nationalities. After his fateful meeting with Rabindranath on July 7, 1912, Rabindranath went to the United States to deliver a series of lectures at Harvard University. During his absence, W.B. Yeats, who was by then an established poet in London cultural’s scene, praised Rabindranath in the circles where he had influence. By the time Rabindranath returned to Britain, he had become “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental”.
16 Nov 19, 11:39 AM
Pastor Shin: A3.It was Gitanjali (the Songs of Offering), a collection of 157 poems on themes of spirituality, nature, complicated human emotions, and suffering that was translated into English in 1912 that brought Rabindranath much success, acclaim, and earned him a Nobel Prize in 1913.

Just like others of Rabindranath’s Western admirers, W.B. Yeats was drawn to the devotional and religious nature of the Rabindranath’s poetry that pervaded all class distinctions, backgrounds, and nationalities. After his fateful meeting with Rabindranath on July 7, 1912, Rabindranath went to the United States to deliver a series of lectures at Harvard University. During his absence, W.B. Yeats, who was by then an established poet in London cultural’s scene, praised Rabindranath in the circles where he had influence. By the time Rabindranath returned to Britain, he had become “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental”.
16 Nov 19, 11:39 AM
P Lanse:
2. Rabindranath’s vision and ideas about education embodied the principles of ancient Indian hermitages, and purported to encourage children to grow into responsible, sensible, and mature individuals. He did not agree with teaching students within a crammed four-wall classroom because he believed that the walls represented the conditioning of the mind. He believed that children should be taught beneath the open skies, under the cool shade of trees, that teachers should not limit themselves and not be afraid to borrow ideas from various sources, come up with their own hypotheses, and be forward-thinking, open-minded, and willing to learn new things as they taught.To realize his vision, Rabindranath sold one of his personal properties in Puri, and his wife, Mrinalini Devi voluntarily parted with her jewellery in order to support her husband’s venture.
16 Nov 19, 11:36 AM
Valentina_moderator: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/chat-pictures/chat-9rpfg7cas9263.jpg - This is the picture of the famous Rabindranath Tagore. He had so many talents and visions for the benefit of humanity.
16 Nov 19, 11:34 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin, Pastor Lanse, and Joy
16 Nov 19, 11:34 AM
Joy: Ans2: Continue
- To meet the growing expenses, Rabindranath sold one of his personal properties in Puri, and Mrinalini Devi voluntarily parted with her jewellery in order to support her husband’s venture.
16 Nov 19, 11:34 AM
Joy:
Ans:2.

- Rabindranath established himself as a visionary when he wrote his famous essay Swadeshi Samaj, where he elaborated his ideas on programmes that included village cooperative movements, mass education, and local self-governance to instil the spirit of self-reliance among the Bengali villagers, in order to rejuvenate their lives and give them hope.

- In 1901, Rabindranath established Patha Bhavana, formerly known as Brahmacharya Ashram, with the help of Brahmabandhav Upadhyay, a Roman Catholic, as a school for children. This venture revealed his true mind as a visionary, as his straightforward and path-defying ideas about education embodied the principles of ancient Indian hermitages, and purported to encourage children to grow into responsible, sensible, and mature individuals.

- Rabindranath had reservations about teaching students within a crammed four-wall classroom because he believed that the walls represented the conditioning of the mind. He believed that children should be taught beneath the open skies, under the cool shade of trees, that teachers should not limit themselves and not be afraid to borrow ideas from various sources, come up with their own hypotheses, and be forward-thinking, open-minded, and willing to learn new things as they taught. Rabindranath was so passionate about this project that he moved his whole family to Santiniketan and enrolled his son Rathindranath as the first student in this school.

- However, this venture was met with obstacles and funding constraints as initially only a few students were interested to study at Patha Bhavana. In the book, Letters by Tagore Volume I, several letters Rabindranath wrote to his family members, including his wife Mrinalini Devi, reflected his anxiety about the funding constraints to develop this education institution, and his feeling of helplessness.

16 Nov 19, 11:33 AM
P Lanse: 1. Rabindranath established himself as a visionary when he wrote his famous essay Swadeshi Samaj, where he elaborated his ideas on programmes that included village cooperative movements, mass education, and local self-governance to instill the spirit of self-reliance among the Bengali villagers, in order to rejuvenate their lives and give them hope.

He experimented with rural reconstruction at his family estate although his ideas did not get much support initially. To realise this, Rabindranath bought a large manor and the surrounding land in Surul in 1912, approximately three kilometres from Santiniketan where he established the Institute of Rural Reconstruction.
16 Nov 19, 11:32 AM
Pastor Shin: A2.Rabindranath has straightforward and path-defying ideas about education embodying the principles of ancient Indian hermitages, and purported to encourage children to grow into responsible, sensible, and mature individuals.

He did not agree with teaching students within a crammed four-wall classroom because he believed that the walls represented the conditioning of the mind. He believed that children should be taught beneath the open skies, under the cool shade of trees, that teachers should not limit themselves and not be afraid to borrow ideas from various sources, come up with their own hypotheses, and be forward-thinking, open-minded, and willing to learn new things as they taught.

In order to realise his vision on education, Rabindranath sold one of his personal properties in Puri, and his wife, Mrinalini Devi voluntarily parted with her jewellery in order to support her husband’s venture. While Rabindranath managed the school, Mrinalini Devi took care of the students in the boarding house.
16 Nov 19, 11:31 AM
Valentina_moderator: In the interest of time, please proceed to question no. 3
16 Nov 19, 11:30 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Yee Yin
16 Nov 19, 11:29 AM
Yee Yin: 2. Please describe Rabindranath’s vision and ideas about education. What did he not agree with? What sacrifices that Rabindranath and his wife made to realize his vision on education?
Ans: His vision and idea about education embodied the principles of ancient Indian hermitages, and purported to encourage children to grow into responsible, sensible, and mature individuals. Rabindranath had reservations about teaching students within a crammed four-wall classroom because he believed that the walls represented the conditioning of the mind. He believed that children should be taught beneath the open skies, under the cool shade of trees, that teachers should not limit themselves and not be afraid to borrow ideas from various sources, come up with their own hypotheses, and be forward-thinking, open-minded, and willing to learn new things as they taught.
In order to realise his vision on education, Rabindranath sold one of his personal properties in Puri, and Mrinalini Devi voluntarily parted with her jewellery in order to support her husband’s venture. While Rabindranath managed the school, Mrinalini Devi took care of the students in the boarding house.
16 Nov 19, 11:28 AM
Valentina_moderator: 3. Which one of Rabindranath writing won him an international acclaim? How he became known as “the latest epitome of all stereotypes oriental”?
16 Nov 19, 11:28 AM
Valentina_moderator: Next question...
16 Nov 19, 11:28 AM
Valentina_moderator: 2. Please describe Rabindranath’s vision and ideas about education. What did he not agree with? What sacrifices that Rabindranath and his wife made to realize his vision on education?
Rabindranath’s vision and ideas about education were to encourage children to grow into responsible, sensible, and mature individuals. Rabindranath did not agree and had reservations about teaching students within a crammed four-wall classroom because he believed that the walls represented the conditioning of the mind. He believed that children should be taught beneath the open skies, under the cool shade of trees, that teachers should not limit themselves and not be afraid to borrow ideas from various sources, come up with their own hypotheses, and be forward-thinking, open-minded, and willing to learn new things as they taught. When his first education venture Patha Bhavana was met with financial constraints, Rabindranath sold one of his personal properties in Puri, and his wife sold her jewelry to pay for the expenses of Patha Bhavana, Rabindranath’s education venture.
16 Nov 19, 11:26 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Yee Yin and Chris
16 Nov 19, 11:25 AM
Chris: Answer 2: Rabindranath had reservations about teaching students within a crammed four-wall classroom because he believed that the walls represented the conditioning of the mind. He believed that children should be taught beneath the open skies, under the cool shade of trees, that teachers should not limit themselves and not be afraid to borrow ideas from various sources, come up with their own hypotheses, and be forward-thinking, open-minded, and willing to learn new things as they taught. Rabindranath was so passionate about this project that he moved his whole family to Santiniketan and enrolled his son Rathindranath as the first student in this school.
16 Nov 19, 11:22 AM
Yee Yin: 1. Please describe Rabindranath’s idea that established him as a visionary? What did Rabindranath do to realise this idea?
Ans:
Rabindranath established himself as a visionary when he wrote his famous essay Swadeshi Samaj, where he elaborated his ideas on programmes that included village cooperative movements, mass education, and local self-governance to instill the spirit of self-reliance among the Bengali villagers, in order to rejuvenate their lives and give them hope.

Although this visionary idea did not receive much support initially, the challenging circumstances did not deter him. He experimented with rural reconstruction at his family estate and in 1912, Rabindranath bought a large manor and the surrounding land in Surul,establishing the Institute of Rural Reconstruction to realise his ideas.
16 Nov 19, 11:21 AM
Valentina_moderator: Please proceed to question no. 2
16 Nov 19, 11:21 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Chris :)
16 Nov 19, 11:21 AM
Yee Yin: 1. Please describe Rabindranath’s idea that established him as a visionary? What did Rabindranath do to realise this idea?
16 Nov 19, 11:21 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Joy
16 Nov 19, 11:21 AM
Chris: Additional Answer 1: Later in 1912, Rabindranath bought a large manor and the surrounding land in Surul, approximately three kilometres from Santiniketan where he established the Institute of Rural Reconstruction.
16 Nov 19, 11:19 AM
Joy: 1. Please describe Rabindranath’s idea that established him as a visionary? What did Rabindranath do to realise this idea?

Rabindranath established himself as a visionary when he wrote his famous essay Swadeshi Samaj, where he elaborated his ideas on programmes that included village cooperative movements, mass education, and local self-governance to instill the spirit of self-reliance among the Bengali villagers, in order to rejuvenate their lives and give them hope.

He realise this idea when he spent a significant amount of time on a houseboat in the Padma River, which allowed him to experience rural life, and be exposed to the life of commoners in Bengal, including their manners, customs, sorrows, sufferings, rituals, and rites.
16 Nov 19, 11:19 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin
16 Nov 19, 11:18 AM
Pastor Shin: A1.Rabindranath established himself as a visionary when he wrote his famous essay Swadeshi Samaj, where he elaborated his ideas on programmes that included village cooperative movements, mass education, and local self-governance to instill the spirit of self-reliance among the Bengali villagers, in order to rejuvenate their lives and give them hope.

Although this visionary idea did not receive much support initially, the challenging circumstances did not deter him. He experimented with rural reconstruction at his family estate and in 1912, Rabindranath bought a large manor and the surrounding land in Surul,establishing the Institute of Rural Reconstruction to realise his ideas.
16 Nov 19, 11:15 AM
Valentina_moderator: 2. Please describe Rabindranath’s vision and ideas about education. What did he not agree with? What sacrifices that Rabindranath and his wife made to realize his vision on education?
16 Nov 19, 11:15 AM
Valentina_moderator: Second question
16 Nov 19, 11:15 AM
Valentina_moderator: 1. Please describe Rabindranath’s idea that established him as a visionary? What did Rabindranath do to realise this idea?

Rabindranath established himself as a visionary when he wrote his essay, Swadeshi Samaj, where he elaborated his ideas on programs that included village cooperative movements, mass education, and local self-governance to instill the spirit of self-reliance among the Bengali villagers, to rejuvenate their lives and give them hope.

Although this visionary idea did not receive much support initially, the challenging circumstances did not deter him. Rabindranath experimented with rural reconstruction at his family estate. Later in 1912, Rabindranath bought a large manor and the surrounding land in Surul and established the Institute of Rural Reconstruction to realize his ideas.
16 Nov 19, 11:12 AM
Valentina_moderator: THank you Chris - Would you mind to elaborate what did Rabindranath do to realize his ideas?
16 Nov 19, 11:11 AM
Chris: Rabindranath established himself as a visionary when he wrote his famous essay Swadeshi Samaj, where he elaborated his ideas on programmes that included village cooperative movements, mass education, and local self-governance to instill the spirit of self-reliance among the Bengali villagers, in order to rejuvenate their lives and give them hope.

He realise this idea when he spent a significant amount of time on a houseboat in the Padma River, which allowed him to experience rural life, and be exposed to the life of commoners in Bengal, including their manners, customs, sorrows, sufferings, rituals, and rites.
16 Nov 19, 11:04 AM
Valentina_moderator: Good morning Chris - nice to see you here
16 Nov 19, 11:04 AM
Valentina_moderator: 1. Please describe Rabindranath’s idea that established him as a visionary? What did Rabindranath do to realise this idea?
16 Nov 19, 11:03 AM
Chris: Good morning
16 Nov 19, 11:03 AM
Valentina_moderator: First question...
16 Nov 19, 11:01 AM
Valentina_moderator: Let's wait for a few more minutes
16 Nov 19, 10:57 AM
Valentina_moderator: Looking forward to chatting with you…

Today’s blog chat topic is

Rabindranath Tagore: A beacon for humanity


See you!!

https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/inspiration-worthy-words/rabindranath-tagore-a-beacon-for-humanity.html


14 Nov 19, 11:17 PM
Jacinta: Tha k you Rinpoche and good night
14 Nov 19, 11:16 PM
Wan Wai Meng: Tq and good night
14 Nov 19, 11:12 PM
Cc: Tha k you Rinpoche , Choong and everyone.
14 Nov 19, 11:11 PM
Grace Leu (KHJB): Thank you Rinpoche and everyone.Good night.
14 Nov 19, 11:10 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): Thank you Rinpoche, Choong, and all. Good night
14 Nov 19, 11:10 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): Thank you Rinpoche, Pastor Han Nee, Choong and everyone. Good night.
14 Nov 19, 11:10 PM
Fong: Thank you, Rinpoche, Choong_Moderator and everyone in chat room. Goodnight
14 Nov 19, 11:10 PM
Elaine: Thanki you Rinpoche, Choong and all.
14 Nov 19, 11:10 PM
graceleong: Thank you Rinpoche. Thank you Pastor, Choong and all. Goodnight.
14 Nov 19, 11:09 PM
Pastor Han Nee: Thank you Rinpoche. Thank you Choong and everyone. Goodnight.
14 Nov 19, 11:09 PM
yew seng: Good nite Rinpoche.. Good nite everyone
14 Nov 19, 11:09 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A11: Samudra attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada at the end of his meditation. His selflessness to benefit others with his realization, attained the Dakini's Paradice with eight hundreds disciple.
14 Nov 19, 11:09 PM
Callista: Good night and thank you Rinpoche, PHN and everyone
14 Nov 19, 11:09 PM
CarynW: Thank you Rinpoche, Pastsor, Choong and others. Good night.
14 Nov 19, 11:09 PM
Tsa Tsa Ong (KISG): Good night and thank you Rinpoche, Bods, Pastors, Choong and everyone :)
14 Nov 19, 11:08 PM
Wan Wai Meng: Q11. What was the result of his meditation, then his selfless work to benefit others?- At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada. He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:08 PM
Choong_Moderator: Please do your dedications ya.
14 Nov 19, 11:08 PM
Pastor Han Nee: A11. At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi . He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization was known as the Guru Samudrapada. In the end, he attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:08 PM
Cc: A11.At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada. He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:08 PM
Callista: A11: He work selflessly to benefit others with his realisation and attained the Dakini's Paradise with 800 disciples
14 Nov 19, 11:08 PM
Lum Kok Luen: Thank you very much Rinpoche, Pastor, Choong and all in room. Good night and see you all next week.
14 Nov 19, 11:08 PM
Fong: Q11. What was the result of his meditation, then his selfless work to benefit others?

-he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada
-due to his selfless work to benefit others with his realization, he attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:08 PM
graceleong: Q11. What was the result of his meditation, then his selfless work to benefit others? A:At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada. He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:07 PM
Wan Wai Meng: Q10. What instructions did Samudra receive? - He was given instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys. Samudra took the instructions to heart and meditated for three years. At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada.
14 Nov 19, 11:07 PM
Elaine: A11. At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada. He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:07 PM
Choong_Moderator: Chag Tsel Lo!
14 Nov 19, 11:06 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A11: At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi. He then worked selflessly to benefit others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples
14 Nov 19, 11:06 PM
graceleong: Choong_Moderator: @graceleong, we are just chanting the Four Immeasurables. To realize it needs deep practice.- TRUE !!
14 Nov 19, 11:06 PM
Choong_Moderator: BTW, in case we don't know, that is why we are sometimes called the lineage of the Mahasiddhas.
14 Nov 19, 11:06 PM
CarynW: A11: At the end of his meditation, Samudra attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada. He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:06 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A11 : At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada. He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:05 PM
yew seng: A11) He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:05 PM
Choong_Moderator: @graceleong, we are just chanting the Four Immeasurables. To realize it needs deep practice.
14 Nov 19, 11:05 PM
Grace Leu (KHJB): A11 :At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada. He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples
14 Nov 19, 11:05 PM
Tsa Tsa Ong (KISG): A11. He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:04 PM
Choong_Moderator: Last question. Q11. What was the result of his meditation, then his selfless work to benefit others?
14 Nov 19, 11:04 PM
graceleong: Choong_Moderator: "Four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys" - I looked it up, this is the Four Immeasurables as we know it. - Wow ! This practice needs an initiation during those times ?? Aren't we lucky we practiced this from Day One in Kechara , without initiation.
14 Nov 19, 11:04 PM
Wan Wai Meng: Q9. Realizing the suffering he would have to continue to endure, what did Samudra ask of the yogin? - He asked for instructions to end all his suffering.
14 Nov 19, 11:03 PM
Cc: A10.He was given instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys. Samudra took the instructions to heart and meditated for three years.
14 Nov 19, 11:02 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A10: Samudra received instructions for our boundless states of mind and the four internal joys. Samudra took the instructions faithfully and meditated for three years.
14 Nov 19, 11:02 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A10: Samudra was given the instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joy.
14 Nov 19, 11:02 PM
CarynW: A10: Samudra received the instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys. Samudra took the instructions to heart and meditated for three years.
14 Nov 19, 11:01 PM
Choong_Moderator: "Four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys" - I looked it up, this is the Four Immeasurables as we know it.
14 Nov 19, 11:01 PM
graceleong: Q10. What instructions did Samudra receive? A: Samudra received the instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys
14 Nov 19, 11:01 PM
Fong: Q10. What instructions did Samudra receive?

- he received an initiation and the instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys which he took to heart and meditated for three years
14 Nov 19, 11:01 PM
Jacinta: A10: He was given instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys. Samudra took the instructions to heart and meditated for three years.
14 Nov 19, 11:01 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A10 : He was given instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys.
14 Nov 19, 11:01 PM
Tsa Tsa Ong (KISG): A10. He was given instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys. Samudra took the instructions to heart and meditated for three years. At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada. He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 11:01 PM
Pastor Han Nee: A10. Samudra received instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys. Samudra took the instructions to heart and meditated for three years.
14 Nov 19, 11:01 PM
Grace Leu (KHJB): A10 :He was given instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys. Samudra took the instructions to heart and meditated for three years.
14 Nov 19, 11:00 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A9: Realizing the suffering he would have to continue to endure, Samudra begged the Yogin to show him the path out of suffering and Samudra received an initiation from the yogin.
14 Nov 19, 11:00 PM
Elaine: A10. Samudra was given instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys which he took to heart and meditated for three years.
14 Nov 19, 11:00 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q10. What instructions did Samudra receive?
14 Nov 19, 10:59 PM
Grace Leu (KHJB): A9 :Samudra begged the yogin to show him the path out of suffering and he received an initiation from the yogin in return
14 Nov 19, 10:59 PM
Jacinta: A9: Samudra begged the yogin to show him the path out of suffering and he received an initiation from the yogin in return.
14 Nov 19, 10:59 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A9 : Samudra begged the yogin to show him the path out of suffering and he received an initiation from the yogin in return.
14 Nov 19, 10:59 PM
graceleong: Q9. Realizing the suffering he would have to continue to endure, what did Samudra ask of the yogin? A: Samudra begged for a way out of suffering. Hence Acintapa gave him an initiation into a practice
14 Nov 19, 10:58 PM
Fong: Q9. Realizing the suffering he would have to continue to endure, what did Samudra ask of the yogin?

- he asked for the path out of suffering. Which translate to mean that he reached the stage of renunciation almost instantaneously.
14 Nov 19, 10:57 PM
Jacinta: The yogin pointed out that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. The yogin further made it clear to Samudra that he had endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, without even a moment of bliss
14 Nov 19, 10:57 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A8: The yogin Acintapa gave the advice to Samudra and pointed out that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one's past karma. The yogin Acintapa further gave the advice to Samudra that he had to endure severe pain in his past life and in his present life, he would continue to suffer without a moment of bliss.
14 Nov 19, 10:57 PM
yew seng: A9) Samudra begged the yogin to show him the path out of suffering and he received an initiation from the yogin in return. He was given instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys. Samudra took the instructions to heart and meditated for three years. At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada.
14 Nov 19, 10:57 PM
Pastor Han Nee: A9. Realizing that suffering would continue to be his lot, he begged the yogin to show him the path out of suffering. In return , he received an initiation from the yogin. .
14 Nov 19, 10:57 PM
Wan Wai Meng: Q8. When in such a dejected state because he failed to find a single pearl, he met Acintapa the yogin. What advice did Acintapa give? - Acintapa told Samudra that he has suffered tremendously in past lives and will suffer even more in future lives.
14 Nov 19, 10:57 PM
Cc: A9.Samudra begged the yogin to show him the path out of suffering and he received an initiation from the yogin in return.
14 Nov 19, 10:57 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A9: He begged the yogin to show him the path our of suffering and immediately the yogin gave him an initiation.
14 Nov 19, 10:56 PM
CarynW: A9: Samudra begged the yogin to show him the path out of suffering and he received an initiation from the yogin in return.
14 Nov 19, 10:56 PM
Tsa Tsa Ong (KISG): A9. Samudra begged the yogin to show him the path out of suffering and he received an initiation from the yogin in return. He was given instructions of the four boundless states of mind and the four internal joys. Samudra took the instructions to heart and meditated for three years. At the end of his meditation, he attained siddhi and was known as the Guru Samudrapada. He then worked selflessly to benefit the others with his realization and attained the Dakini’s Paradise with eight hundred disciples.
14 Nov 19, 10:56 PM
Elaine: A9. Samudra begged the yogin to show him the path out of suffering and he received an initiation from the yogin in return.
14 Nov 19, 10:56 PM
CarynW: A8: The yogin pointed out to Acintapa that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. The yogin further made it clear to Samudra that he had endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, without even a moment of bliss.
14 Nov 19, 10:56 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A8: The yogin pointed out that all beings in samsara are bound to suffer due to one's past karma. He showed him that in his past life he endured severe pain and that in this present life, he will have to endure the continued suffering without a moment of bliss.
14 Nov 19, 10:55 PM
Choong_Moderator: Samudra then had a moment of renunciaton. Q9. Realizing the suffering he would have to continue to endure, what did Samudra ask of the yogin?
14 Nov 19, 10:55 PM
Cc: A8. The yogin pointed out that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. The yogin further made it clear to Samudra that he had endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, with
14 Nov 19, 10:55 PM
Fong: Q8. When in such a dejected state because he failed to find a single pearl, he met Acintapa the yogin. What advice did Acintapa give?

- that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffer due to their karma.
- that in Samudra's previous life, he suffered a lot of severe pain
- that there is no change in his circumstance to suffer severe pain
14 Nov 19, 10:55 PM
Jacinta: A8: The yogin pointed out that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. The yogin further made it clear to Samudra that he had endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, without even a moment of bliss
14 Nov 19, 10:54 PM
graceleong: Q8. When in such a dejected state because he failed to find a single pearl, he met Acintapa the yogin. What advice did Acintapa give? A: Acintapa pointed out that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. The yogin further made it clear to Samudra that he had endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, without even a moment of bliss.
14 Nov 19, 10:54 PM
Pastor Han Nee: A8. The yogin pointed out that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. He showed Samudra how he had endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, without even a moment of bliss.
14 Nov 19, 10:54 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A8 : The yogin pointed out that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. The yogin further made it clear to Samudra that he had endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, without even a moment of bliss.
14 Nov 19, 10:54 PM
Cc: A7. As a diver and sold peatlshe found in the ocean
14 Nov 19, 10:54 PM
Choong_Moderator: Samudra is another Mahasiddha with huge karmic obstacles.
14 Nov 19, 10:53 PM
Grace Leu (KHJB): A7 :The yogin pointed out that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. The yogin further made it clear to Samudra that he had endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, without even a moment of bliss.
14 Nov 19, 10:53 PM
Tsa Tsa Ong (KISG): A8. The yogin heard Samudra’s fate and gave him advice. The yogin pointed out that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. The yogin further made it clear to Samudra that he had endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, without even a moment of bliss.
14 Nov 19, 10:53 PM
yew seng: A8) The yogin pointed out that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. The yogin further made it clear to Samudra that he had endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, without even a moment of bliss.
14 Nov 19, 10:53 PM
Jacinta: I do not know where is Sri Parvata. In that case, some attained beings can see them.
14 Nov 19, 10:53 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A7: Samudra tried to earn money for food through the sale of pearls he found in the ocean.
14 Nov 19, 10:53 PM
graceleong: Q7. How did Samudra try to earn money for food? A: By selling pearld he found from the sea
14 Nov 19, 10:52 PM
Elaine: A8. The yogin explained that all sentient beings in samsara are bound to suffering due to one’s past karma. Samudra endured severe pain in his past life and in his present life he would continue to suffer, without even a moment of bliss.
14 Nov 19, 10:52 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q8. When in such a dejected state because he failed to find a single pearl, he met Acintapa the yogin. What advice did Acintapa give?
14 Nov 19, 10:52 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A6: Arya Nagarjuna retrieved the secret of immortality by exchanging the recipe of the elixir of life from Vyali with the remarkable shoe that can fly oneself as demonstrated by Nagarjuna. Once the barter was done, Nagarjuna returned to India with the precious formula. However, Vyali and the courtesan were still not knowing the secret of flight.
14 Nov 19, 10:52 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q8. When in such as dejected state because he failed to find a single pearl, he met Acintapa the yogin. What advice did Acintapa give?
14 Nov 19, 10:50 PM
Choong_Moderator: @Jacinta, "To this very day, he continues his practice for the sake of all sentient beings on top of Sri Parvata Mountain. And to those who find the path to realization, he grants the secret of the magic elixir of life."
14 Nov 19, 10:50 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A7: He made a living by selling pearls that he finds in the ocean
14 Nov 19, 10:50 PM
Jacinta: A7: Through the sale of pearls.
14 Nov 19, 10:50 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A7: Samudra sustained himself through the sale of pearls he found in the ocean.
14 Nov 19, 10:50 PM
Grace Leu (KHJB): A7 :He sustained himself through the sale of pearls he found in the ocea
14 Nov 19, 10:50 PM
yew seng: A7) A pearl diver.
14 Nov 19, 10:50 PM
CarynW: A7: Through the sale of pearls that Samudra found in the ocean.
14 Nov 19, 10:49 PM
Jacinta: Where are they now? How they benefit sentient beings? Through emanation?
14 Nov 19, 10:49 PM
Cc: A6.Arya Nagarjuna removed one of his shoes before taking to the air. When he arrived at the top rock, he prostrated himself to the mortal pair. They were startled to see him and desired his power of flight. When they questioned Nagarjuna on his remarkable gift, he told them it was the power of the one shoe he was wearing. Vyali then offered to trade him the recipe of the elixir of life for the remarkable shoe. The barter done, Nagarjuna returned to India with the precious formula.
14 Nov 19, 10:49 PM
Tsa Tsa Ong (KISG): A7. Samudra sustained himself through the sale of pearls he found in the ocean. There was a day he was despaired because he failed to find a single pearl to earn money for food.
14 Nov 19, 10:49 PM
Elaine: A7. He sold pearls he found in the ocean.
14 Nov 19, 10:49 PM
Pastor Han Nee: A7. Being a diver, he found the pearls in the ocean and sold them for food.
14 Nov 19, 10:49 PM
Wan Wai Meng: Q7. How did Samudra try to earn money for food? - He was a diver who hunted for pearls in the seas.
14 Nov 19, 10:49 PM
Fong: Q7. How did Samudra try to earn money for food?
- he worked as a pearl diver in order to sustain himself
14 Nov 19, 10:48 PM
CarynW: A6: Arya Nagarjuna traded his shoes which supposedly has the power to fly for the recipe of immortality with Vyali. Vyali and the courtesan failed to gain the siddhi of flight.
14 Nov 19, 10:48 PM
Choong_Moderator: Any questions about the story of Mahasiddha Vyali?
14 Nov 19, 10:47 PM
Choong_Moderator: Moving on to Mahasiddha Samudra. Q7. How did Samudra try to earn money for food?
14 Nov 19, 10:47 PM
Cc: Hi PHN
14 Nov 19, 10:47 PM
Lum Kok Luen: After the barter trade, the two of them still could not gain the power of flight as they lacked bodhicitta. However, Nagajurna is reputedly still practising at the top of Sri Parvata Mountain for the sake of all sentient beings. And for those that find the path to realization, he will grant them the elixir of life.
14 Nov 19, 10:47 PM
Wan Wai Meng: Q6. How did Arya Nagarjuna retrieve the secret of immortality? Did Vyali and the courtesan gain the siddhi of flight? - Nagarjuna was determined that the secret of immmortality will not only be owned by this greedy pair. Using a ruse he was able, trick the pair, and retrieve the formula. The pair did not succeed in gaining the power of flight.
14 Nov 19, 10:47 PM
Pastor Han Nee: A6. No, they did not gain the siddhi of flight.
14 Nov 19, 10:46 PM
Cc: A5. Due to selfishness
14 Nov 19, 10:46 PM
Elaine: A6. Nagarjuna had the siddhi of flight. He flew to the Vyali and the courtesan on top of the mountain to ask for the recipe of the potion. He bartered his shoe for the recipe of the elixir of life. Vyali and the courtesan got the shoe but no secret for flying.r]
14 Nov 19, 10:46 PM
Choong_Moderator: *thought
14 Nov 19, 10:46 PM
Jacinta: A6: Nagarjuna retrieved the secret of immortality through the exchange of knowledge. Vayli desired to learn the power of flight while Nagarjuna would like to know the formula. However, Vyali did not manage to learn.
14 Nov 19, 10:46 PM
yew seng: A6) Arya Nagarjuna retrieved the secret of immortality by trading his shoe with the secret formula of immortality with Vyali. Vyali, thinking the power of flight was in the shoe gladly made the trade. However Vyali and the courtesan did not manage to gain the siddhi of flight because the power of flight was within Arya Nagarjuna and not the shoe.
14 Nov 19, 10:46 PM
Choong_Moderator: Ha ha ha, they taught the shoe (the object) was where the power laid.
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