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21 Oct 18, 02:55 PM
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20 Oct 18, 01:34 PM
Callista: Thank you Rinpoche, Pastor, Moderators and everyone
20 Oct 18, 12:56 PM
Sofi: Thank you Rinpoche. Thank you Joy for moderating and everyone.
20 Oct 18, 12:56 PM
Sofi: A6 : The lesson that I learnt is to trust in our Guru and our protector Dorje Shugden through Rinpoche's experiences. In following the advises given, Rinpoche had always succeed despite the difficulties and hardships.
20 Oct 18, 12:50 PM
Sofi: A6 : Rinpoche was 27 when he travel to teach and raise funds for his monastery. Rinpoche did it out of Guru devotion and Dorje Shugden had advised Rinpoche to go and what blessed items to bring and what Rinpoche should teach on
20 Oct 18, 12:41 PM
sweekeong: Thank you Rinpoche, moderator, and everyone.
20 Oct 18, 12:41 PM
Valentina: Next week’s blog chat topic is

Mantra - Holy Words of Power

https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/mantras-holy-words-of-power.html

See you next week!
20 Oct 18, 12:40 PM
freon: Thank you
20 Oct 18, 12:39 PM
Pastor Antoinette: Thank you Rinpoche, thanks Joy and everyone.
20 Oct 18, 12:38 PM
Victor.C: Thank you Rinpcohe, moderator and everyone!
20 Oct 18, 12:38 PM
Pastor Antoinette: 6. How old was Rinpoche when Rinpoche took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery? Why did Rinpoche do it and what did Dorje Shugden advise Rinpoche about Malaysia? What can we learn from Rinpoche here or what’s the biggest lesson for you?

-Because of a severe lack of money and sponsorship, the monastery in Gaden had not enough adequate accommodations for the monks and they had to sleep outside on verandas risking snake bites or other attacks and illness.
-H.E. Kyabje Late Rinpoche requested Rinpoche to go abroad in order to teach and raise funds to build Phukhang Khangtsen for the monks accommodation.
Dorje Shugden told Rinpoche to go abroa and Rinpoche got also instructions on what blessed items to bring along and what he should teach.
The biggest lesson is to trust our guru always as he is one with Dorje Shugden.
20 Oct 18, 12:37 PM
Victor.C: 6. How old was Rinpoche when Rinpoche took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery?
- Back that Rinpoche was 27 years old to travel abroad to teach and raise funds for the building of much-needed monk quarters for Phukhang Khangtsen by Kyabje Lati Rinpoche.

Why did Rinpoche do it and what did Dorje Shugden advise Rinpoche about Malalaysia.
- Rinpoche did because of Guru Devotion to his root Guru Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Dorje Shugden advised Rinpoche to bring the lineage of Lama Tsongkhapa to the people of Malaysia.

What can we learn from Rinpoche here or what’s the biggest lesson for you?
- Lesson learned are
- guru devotion and trust of his guru advise and dharma protector.
- go all the way to benefit others.
20 Oct 18, 12:37 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you everyone... have a good & safe weekend :)
20 Oct 18, 12:36 PM
Lin Mun: Thank you Rinpoche and everyone. Have a good weekend.
20 Oct 18, 12:36 PM
Sofi: A5 : Rinpoche met the Mahasiddha H.E. Gangchen Rinpoche in Kathmandu who gave him verbal recognition of Rinpoche's reincarnation and then in 2015 gave the status in writing. While in Kathmandu, he met a Western student of Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche, who promised to bring Rinpoche to meet his Guru but left without Rinpoche. Rinpoche went out and Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche in a taxi stopped him and asked Rinpoche to meet him in the afternoon, where Rinpoche was told of his reincarnation and to asked for recognition from the monastery. Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche also advised that Rinpoche had his autobiography written as it would serve as an inspiration and benefit many people
20 Oct 18, 12:36 PM
Lin Mun: A6: Rinpoche was only 27 years old when he was asked to travel to teach and fund raised for his monastery.

Rinpoche said if it was Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden said that he should go then he would , thinking that Dorje Shugden would definitely say he was not qualified. A few days later during a Dorje Shugden trance, through the oracle Rinpoche is asked to go give teaching and fund raise. Rinpoche also received instructions on what blessed items he should bring and what he should teach.

Lesson learned – Rinpoche have full trust to his Guru and therefore will follow his instruction to teach. This is the practice of Guru Devotion.
20 Oct 18, 12:35 PM
Kien Wong: Thank you Guruji and everyone. MAy you all have nice weekend.
20 Oct 18, 12:35 PM
Valentina: Thank you Jacinta and Freon and looking forward to chatting with you next week
20 Oct 18, 12:34 PM
Jacinta: Thank you Rinpoche and Joy for moderating. Thanks to all who are here and congrats in advance to the one will win! 😁
20 Oct 18, 12:34 PM
freon: Thank you Moderator and blog friend here
20 Oct 18, 12:34 PM
Valentina: Next week’s blog chat topic is

Mantra - Holy Words of Power

https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/mantras-holy-words-of-power.html

See you next week!
20 Oct 18, 12:34 PM
freon: Thank you Rinpoche
20 Oct 18, 12:34 PM
Kien Wong: Ans 6: Rinpoche took up the travel, Dharma teaching and fundraising at the age of 27. Even though he is reluctant to go. After the DS advise to go. Rinpoche got to make it to Malaysia with several items which advise by DS.
After all Rinpoche successfully achieving the task he received from his Lama. This is due to Rinpoche have strong faith and Guru devotion to his Lamas.
20 Oct 18, 12:34 PM
freon: Add on how Rinpoche choose Malaysia
In year 1990, when Rinpoche was on pilgrimage at Bodhgaya, he met a young Malaysian who offered him his first Vajrayogini statue right under the Bodhi tree where Buddha had gain attainment. On that same trip, Rinpoche had also met a Malaysian monk, Reverend Khoon, who they have keep in touch. Thus when Lati Rinpoche to fundrainse came, Rinpoche decided to go Malaysia.
20 Oct 18, 12:33 PM
Joy_Moderator: We will announce the WINNER TOMORROW HERE. PLEASE WATCH OUT FOR IT. Thank you everyone for your participation. Please do your DEDICATIONS before you leave.
20 Oct 18, 12:33 PM
Grace: Thank you Rinpoche, Joy and everyone.
20 Oct 18, 12:33 PM
Alice: Thank you Rinpoche, Joy and everyone.
20 Oct 18, 12:33 PM
Joy_Moderator: Dear everyone we have actually come to an end for today's blog chat quiz as we have gotten the answer for all question. Please refer to the answers for those who came in late and is still answer :)
20 Oct 18, 12:32 PM
sweekeong: 6. Rinpoche was 27 year old when he travelled, taught and fundraised for his monastery. Rinpoche did it out of his guru devotion. Dorje Shugden advised Rinpoche to bring Lama Tsongkhapa lineage to the people of Malaysia. Rinpoche has tremendously guru devotion and no matter suffering he endured for the benefits of many. He is a living Bodhisattva by living as an example for others.
20 Oct 18, 12:31 PM
Yee Yin: 2. How did Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden and started doing his practice when he was in TDL? Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later?

Ans: Tsem Rinpoche's first encounter with Dorje Shugden was in the room of a monk called Lothar. He started doing the practice when he was trying to apply for a higher-paying jobs closer to the TDL and Geshe-la kindly gave Rinpoche Dorje Shugden practice to help him. Rinpoche was trying to apply for higher-paying jobs closer to the TDL and has asked Geshe-la for a practice that would help him succeed, explaining why getting a job closer to the centre was so important to him. Geshe-la pointed to a thangka in his room and told Rinpoche to pray to Dharmapala and he will help Rinpoche to get the job he wanted. Immediately, Rinpoche prostrated to the thangka and at Geshe-la’s instruction, verbally requested for the Dharmapala’s help. This was Rinpoche’s second encounter with the Dharmapala
20 Oct 18, 12:31 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Alice for your answer.
20 Oct 18, 12:31 PM
Joy_Moderator: @Freon... one more answer my dear >>> What can we learn from Rinpoche here or what’s the biggest lesson for you?
20 Oct 18, 12:30 PM
Alice: 6. How old was Rinpoche when Rinpoche took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery? Why did Rinpoche do it and what did Dorje Shugden advise Rinpoche about Malaysia? What can we learn from Rinpoche here or what’s the biggest lesson for you?
Ans: Rinpoche was only 27 years old that time.
This was advised by his guru and also Dorje Shugden said Rinpoche should go. Rinpoche was also received instructions on what blessed items he should bring and what he should teach.
Rinpoche has fully trust in Dorje Shugden and Rinpoche know Dorje Shugden will help him because whatever Rinpoche has done is for dharma and bring benefits to many others in Malaysia as well as raise fund for the monastery and help many monks to spread dharma. This also remind me to let go our own preference and think more about how to benefit to others.
20 Oct 18, 12:30 PM
Jacinta: 6. At the age of 27,Rinpoche was tasked to go abroad and fundraiser for the monastery. Rinpoche knew that it will be better to serve the Sangha and support them through fundraising as this is better going retreat as this will benefit beings more. Dorje Shugden advised that He should bring Lama Tsongkhapa lineage others and it will benefit this region (Malaysia) and also all over the world. By putting aside personal interest, Rinpoche went abroad. It was also a sign of great Guru Devotion as it also fulfilled the wishes and instruction given by His Guru. I learnt that in all situations especially when we are facing having to decide, we should strive to benefit other beings first and also to have great Guru Devotion. That’s how we can serve Buddha lDharma
20 Oct 18, 12:30 PM
Joy_Moderator: 6. How old was Rinpoche when Rinpoche took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery? Why did Rinpoche do it and what did Dorje Shugden advise Rinpoche about Malaysia? What can we learn from Rinpoche here or what’s the biggest lesson for you?

- Rinpoche was 27 years old when Rinpoche undertook the task of travelling abroad to teach and fundraise for his monastery.
- Rinpoche did so because of his great guru devotion and deep love for the Sangha. Hence, Rinpoche put aside his personal preference for a quiet, secluded life where he can do retreats and study peacefully, and chose to serve the monastery.
- During a trance, Dorje Shugden himself advised Rinpoche to bring the lineage of Lama Tsongkhapa to the people of Malaysia and to do whatever he could to benefit people and bring Dharma here. This was how Rinpoche chose Malaysia.
- The biggest lesson for me learning from Rinpoche here is to always put others first if we truly want to transform ourselves, grow spiritually and gain attainments. To choose to do the things not out of our preference, but for the benefit of others, which should be bigger than our own preference.
20 Oct 18, 12:30 PM
Cc: A5.Rinpoche took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery when he was 27. Dorje Shugden advise Rinpoche to teach dharma and benefit people in Malaysia. The biggest lesson is have faith and devoted and go all way.
20 Oct 18, 12:30 PM
Grace: To add on :
The thing that we learn from Rinpoche is that ‘nothing is impossible’. We are thankful that Rinpoche travelled to Malaysia to bring dharma to us that has benefitted to many sentient beings. Without Rinpoche, I will not know or even get to know Dorje Shugden.
20 Oct 18, 12:30 PM
freon: A6: At the age of 27, Rinpoche took up the task to travel and fund raise for his monastery.
Rinpoche have to do so because at that time, monastery was severely lack of funds and sponsorship, and also running out of accommodation due to a constant influx of monks from Tibet. Lati Rinpoche requested Tsem Rinpoche to go abroad to teach and raise fund to buld a monks’ hostel for Pukhang Khangtsen

Tsem Rinpoche do it because the Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden said Rinpoche should go

Dorje Shugden also gave Rinpoche instructions on what blessed items he should bring and what he should teach
20 Oct 18, 12:30 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Karen.. your answer is the best and most complete :) :) :)
20 Oct 18, 12:30 PM
Yee Yin: 6. How old was Rinpoche when Rinpoche took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery? Why did Rinpoche do it and what did Dorje Shugden advise Rinpoche about Malaysia? What can we learn from Rinpoche here or what’s the biggest lesson for you?

Ans: Tsem Rinpoche was 27 years old when he took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery. Rinpoche did that because his teacher Lati Rinpoche instructed him. At that time there was an influx of monks from Tibet and there was not enough room to accommodate all of them, so more hostel or rooms have to be built. Dorje Shugden advised Rinpoche what blessed items to bring and what teachings he should give when he came to Malaysia.

What we can do is that we can rely on Dorje Shugden fully. When our motivation is right, Dorje Shugden will help us to achieve it. It is very important not to give up.
20 Oct 18, 12:29 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Grace for your answer but you did not tell us what you learn from this?
20 Oct 18, 12:27 PM
KarenC: 6. How old was Rinpoche when Rinpoche took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery? Why did Rinpoche do it and what did Dorje Shugden advise Rinpoche about Malaysia? What can we learn from Rinpoche here or what’s the biggest lesson for you? A: Rinpoche was at the age of 27 when he took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for the monastery. Rinpoche did it out of Guru devotion and Dorje Shugden advised Rinpoche that He should go to Malaysia to teach, and gave Rinpoche advice of what holy items to bring and what to teach. The biggest lesson for myself here is that in the beginning Rinpoche was reluntant to travel abroad to teach as He wanted to stay in the monastery to be with his Guru and lack of experience/understanding in Dharma, He refused to go. However he listened to his Guru and protector due to his great devotion, he put his personal preferences aside and carried out his guru’s instructions for the benefit of others. This is a sign of Boddhisattva and the success of Tsem Rinpoche’s work today reflects His quality of strong guru devotion .
20 Oct 18, 12:26 PM
Grace: 6. How old was Rinpoche when Rinpoche took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery? Why did Rinpoche do it and what did Dorje Shugden advise Rinpoche about Malaysia? What can we learn from Rinpoche here or what’s the biggest lesson for you?
Answer : Rinpoche was only 27 years old when Lati Rinpoche requested him to go abroad to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery.
Rinpoche did it because Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden said that he should go.
Dorje Shugden had advised Rinpoche to bring the lineage of Lama Tsongkhapa to the people of Malaysia, and to do whatever he could to benefit them and bring them the Dharma. DS further predicted that Rinpoche’s teachings and enlightened activities would bring great benefit to this region and the world.
20 Oct 18, 12:26 PM
Valentina: Thank you Kien, Sofi, and Swee Keong for your answers...
20 Oct 18, 12:26 PM
Sofi: A4 : The added bonus to living in Zong Ladrang was that Rinpoche's room was directly opposite the Tenkhang, the Protector Chapel where the Choyang Duldzin Oracle would take trance of the enlightened Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden and Setrap. Rinpoche would frequently attend the trances or participate in the monthly pujas to Dorje Shugden. It was during one of trances that Rinpoche received the oral transmission of Dorje Shugden divination text which was composed by Dorje Shugden himself. The Dorje Shugden divination or mö uses a six-sided dice and produces incredibly clear and precise answers which until today Rinpoche uses to benefit others.
20 Oct 18, 12:25 PM
sweekeong: 5. Rinpoche met Gangchen Rinpoche in Kathmandu. One day Rinpoche was in Kathmandu street when a taxi approached with a bearded Tibetan monk. Rinpoche waved to the taxi, the monk was the Mahasiddha Gangchen Rinpoche who met Rinpoche for the first ime. Gangchen Rinpoche proclaimed Rinpoche to be a high reincarnation and instructed him to seek recognition from monastery.
Rinpoche was recognized as the reincarnation of the Gaden Shartse 72nd Abbot, Gedun Nyedrak.
20 Oct 18, 12:25 PM
Kien Wong: Ans 5: Rinpoche met H. E. Gangchen Rinpoche at Kathmandu. Gangchen Rinpoche proclaimed him to be an incarnation of a high lama and instructed that Rinpoche seek recognition from the monastery.
Gangchen Rinpoche advised Rinpoche that a biography should be written out Tsem Rinpoche’s life as it would be greatful of inspiration to many people in future.
20 Oct 18, 12:25 PM
Valentina: Thank you Pastor Antoinette. good bye JP, Chat with you again next week!
20 Oct 18, 12:24 PM
Pastor Antoinette: 5. After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 who did Rinpoche meet in Kathmandu? How did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is?

-Rinpoche met H.E. Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche in Kathmandu, Nepal. Rinpoche was waving for a taxi and H.E. Gangchen Rinpoche was inside the taxi and he asked him to met him in his house.
-H.E. Gangchen Rinpoche asked Rinpoche to seek recognition form the monastery and that a biography should be written about Rinpoche's life to inspire others.
-H.E. Gangchen Rinpoche instructed Rinpoche also to give a talk to a group of 50 Malaysians about the history of a temple and this was the first connection with Malaysia.
-The advice to seek recognition from the monastery was very significant and proves who Rinpoche is.
20 Oct 18, 12:24 PM
jp: Thank you Rinpoche and everyone here. Gotta go.
20 Oct 18, 12:24 PM
Lin Mun: A5: Rinpoche met Gangchen Rinpoche at the busy intersection in Thamel, when a taxi approached. Gangchen Rinpoche said that Rinpoche is the incarnation of a high lama and instructed him to seek recognition from the monastery. This would be the first of many unusual instructions that Gangchen Rinpoche would give Tsem Rinpoche. Gangchen Rinpoche was also the one who advised that a biography should be written about Tsem Rinpoche’s life as it would be a source of inspiration to others.
20 Oct 18, 12:24 PM
Joy_Moderator: 6. How old was Rinpoche when Rinpoche took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery? Why did Rinpoche do it and what did Dorje Shugden advise Rinpoche about Malaysia? What can we learn from Rinpoche here or what’s the biggest lesson for you?
20 Oct 18, 12:24 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Victor, Freon, Kien and JP for your answers :)
20 Oct 18, 12:23 PM
Yee Yin: 5. After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 who did Rinpoche meet in Kathmandu? How did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is?

Ans: After Rinpoche's ordination in 1987, Rinpoche met Gangchen Rinpoche in Kathmandu. At that time, Tsem Rinpoche was walking on the street in Thamel and he waved at a taxi. The taxi stopped and it was Gangchen Rinpoche who was inside the taxi. Gangchen Rinpoche told Tsem Rinpoche he was an incarnation of a high lama and ask Rinpoche to seek for recognition. Gangchen Rinpoche also advised Tsem Rinpoche to write his biography about his life to inspire others. True enough, Tsem Rinpoche was later recognised as a Tulku.
20 Oct 18, 12:23 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you CC for answer :)
20 Oct 18, 12:23 PM
jp: 5. After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 who did Rinpoche meet in Kathmandu? How did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is? Rinpoche met Gangchen Rinpoche in Kathmandu on the streets. Gangchen Rinpoche was in a car and stopped the car in front of Rinpoche. Gangchen Rinpoche invited Rinpoche to visit him in Gangchen Ladrang. During the visit Gangchen Rinpoche told Rinpoche that he is a high reincarnate lama and he should return to Gaden Monastery and inform the abbot to enthrone him.
20 Oct 18, 12:22 PM
Kien Wong: Ans 4: Rinpoche live very close to Protector Chapel (tenkhang) where the Choyang Duldzin Oracle would take trance of Dorje Shugden and Setrap. So he can often run across there to attend the oracular trances and to participate in the monthly Dorje Shugden pujas.
During one of the many trances, Rinpoche received the oral transmission of Dorje Shugden divination text (composed by Dorje Shugden himself).
20 Oct 18, 12:22 PM
Valentina: Thank you Cc, Victor and Freon
20 Oct 18, 12:21 PM
freon: A5: After his ordination in Dharamsala in 1987, Rinpoche met H.H Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche in Kathmandu
Rinpoche was standing in Thamel, when a taxi approached with a bearded Tibetan monk in the front seat. Rinpoche waved and the taxi came to halt right infront of him. It was at the time Rinpoche told Gangchen Rinpoche that he wanted to meet him and Gangchen Rinpoche gave his address and invited Tsem Rinpoche to his house that afternoon.

During the meeting, Gangchen Rinpoche suddenly proclaimed that Tsem Rinpoche to be an incarnation of a high lama, and instructed him to seek recognition from the monastery.
Which proof that Tsem Rinpoche was highly reincarnate lama

Gangchen Rinpoche was also the one who advised that Tsem Rinpoche should have a biography about himself and this would be source of inspiration to others
20 Oct 18, 12:20 PM
Victor.C: A5.
- Rinpoche met Gangchen Rinpoche in busiest intersection in Thamel road, Kathmandu.
- Gangchen Rinpoche gave his address to Rinpoche for a meet in the afternoon.
- Rinpoche visited Gangchen Rinpoche with fruits offering and during the time, Gangchen Rinpoche stared and proclaimed Rinpoche was an incarnation of a high lama and instructed Rinpoche to seek recognition from the monastery.
- Ganchen Rinpoche advised Rinpoche should made a biography about his (Tsem Rinpoce) life.
20 Oct 18, 12:19 PM
Cc: A5.After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 ,Rinpoche meet HE Gangchen Rinpoche at Kathmandu. Gangchen Rinpoche proclaimed Rinpoche to be an incarnation of a high lama, and instructed him to seek recognition from the monastery and later was recognised as Tulku. Gangchen Rinpoche also advised that a biography should be written about Tsem Rinpoche’s life to inspire more people.
20 Oct 18, 12:19 PM
Joy_Moderator: PLEASE ANSWER COMPLETELY
20 Oct 18, 12:18 PM
Joy_Moderator: OK this is our final quiz question for the day... 6. How old was Rinpoche when Rinpoche took up the task to travel, teach and fundraise for his monastery? Why did Rinpoche do it and what did Dorje Shugden advise Rinpoche about Malaysia? What can we learn from Rinpoche here or what’s the biggest lesson for you?
20 Oct 18, 12:18 PM
Joy_Moderator: 5. After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 who did Rinpoche meet in Kathmandu? How did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is?

- Rinpoche met H. E. Gangchen Rinpoche at a busy intersection in Thamel, whereby Gangchen Rinpoche stopped the taxi and asked Tsem Rinpoche to go to his house in the afternoon. Hence, Rinpoche arrived in the afternoon with offerings and Gangchen Rinpoche stared at him and suddenly proclaimed him to be an incarnation of a high lama and instructed that Rinpoche seek recognition from the monastery.
- Gangchen Rinpoche also advised that a biography should be written about Tsem Rinpoche’s life as it would be a source of inspiration to many people.
20 Oct 18, 12:17 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Karen, you also gave a complete answer :)
20 Oct 18, 12:17 PM
KarenC: 5. Q: After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 who did Rinpoche meet in Kathmandu? How did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is? A: Rinpoche met Gangchen Rinpoche in Kathmandu. They both met on the streets in Kathmandu and Gangchen Rinpoche was in the taxi when he saw Tsem Rinpoche walking on the street. Gangchen Rinpoche said Tsem Rinpoche is a high incarnated Lama and should seek for recognition, which Rinpoche later on was recognized as a Tulku. Gangchen Rinpoche also paved ways for Tsem Rinpoche to become a great Dharma teacher with his own style to suit the different minds, Gangchen Rinpoche also advised a Biography of Tsem Rinpoche should be written to inspire others.
20 Oct 18, 12:17 PM
Joy_Moderator: Next in line for a complete answer is Alice... :)
20 Oct 18, 12:16 PM
Joy_Moderator: Very very good answer and complete from Grace for Q5 :)
20 Oct 18, 12:16 PM
Alice: 5. After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 who did Rinpoche meet in Kathmandu? How did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is?
Rinpoche met H.E. Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche in Kathmandu.
They met at a busy intersection in Thamel when Rinpoche waited for a taxi and H.E. Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche was inside the taxi.H.E. Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche stared at Rinpoche nd proclaimed him to be an incarnation of a high lama and instructed Rinpoche to seek recognition from the monastery. Also instructed Rinpoche to have a written biography about Tsem Rinpoche's life which would be a source of inspiration to others.
20 Oct 18, 12:15 PM
Victor.C: face palm
20 Oct 18, 12:15 PM
Lin Mun: A4 : Rinpoche’s room was located opposite of The protector Chapel, where the Choyang Duldzin Oracle would take trance of the enlightened Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden and Setrap. Rinpoche would frequently run across to attend the trances and participate in the monthly Dorje Shugden pujas.

During one theses trances Rinpoche received oral transmission of the Dorje Shugden divination text, which was composed by Dorje Shugden himself. During the nine years in Gaden monastery, Rinpoche engaged in many retreats, deep study and doing massive charitable works for the sangha and lay community.
20 Oct 18, 12:15 PM
Grace: 5. After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 who did Rinpoche meet in Kathmandu? How did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is?
After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987, Rinpoche met H.E. Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche in Kathmandu. Rinpoche was standing on a busy intersection in Thamel, when a taxi approached with a bearded Tibetan monk Gangchen Rinpoche in the front seat. Rinpoche waved and the taxi came to a halt where Gangchen Rinpoche right in front of him.
Gangchen Rinpoche proclaimed Rinpoche to be an incarnation of a high lama, and instructed him to seek recognition from the monastery. Gangchen Rinpoche was also the one who advised that a biography should be written about Tsem Rinpoche’s life, as it would be a source of inspiration to others.
20 Oct 18, 12:15 PM
Cc: Ignore.press enter button
20 Oct 18, 12:15 PM
Yee Yin: 4. What was the added bonus for Rinpoche when he was living in Zong Ladrang when he was in Gaden Monastery? During this time what did Rinpoche receive?

Ans: The room where Rinpoche was staying was opposite to tenkhang, the Protector Chapel, where the Choyang Duldzin Oracle would take trance of Dorje Shugden and Setrap. Rinpoche would run across the narrow lane to tenkhang to attend the trance or participate in the monthly puja to Dorje Shugden.
20 Oct 18, 12:15 PM
Victor.C: A5. After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 who did Rinpoche meet in Kathmandu? How did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is?
20 Oct 18, 12:15 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you @Jacinta... finally someone answering Q5 hehe :)
20 Oct 18, 12:15 PM
Valentina: Thank you Kien and Sofi for your answers to question no. 3
20 Oct 18, 12:15 PM
Cc: A5.After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 ,Rinpoche meet HEin KathmanduHow did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is?
20 Oct 18, 12:15 PM
jp: 4. What was the added bonus for Rinpoche when he was living in Zong Ladrang when he was in Gaden Monastery? During this time what did Rinpoche receive? The added benefit was that the Tenkhang was opposite to where Rinpoche stayed. During this time, Rinpoche received Dorje Shugden's oral transmission of the divination text.
20 Oct 18, 12:14 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you CC for your correct answer for Q4 :)
20 Oct 18, 12:14 PM
Kien Wong: Ans 3: His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama who ordained Rinpoche, giving him his monks vows and name his ordination as Tenzin Zopa.
Rinpoche had no one there to support him during the ceremony. But still Rinpoche had very happy to be ordained become a monk.
20 Oct 18, 12:14 PM
Jacinta: 5. Rinpoche met H.E. Gangchen Rinpoche in Kathmandu when Rinpoche flagged down a taxi which H.E. Gangchen Rinpoche was sitting inside. His Eminence later said that He wishes to meet Rinpoche at Gangchen’s Ladrang and Rinpoche did met with His Eminence and the Mahasiddha proclaimed that Rinpoche was a reincarnation of a High Lama
20 Oct 18, 12:13 PM
Sofi: A3 : Rinpoche was ordained by the 14th Dalai Lama in Dharamsala and given the name "Tenzin Zopa" in December 1987 at the age of 22. Sharpa Rinpoche whom Rinpoche met recently was there to congratulate him. Despite being lonely, Ripoche was undeterred and looked forward to entering monastic life which was his childhood wish fulfilled
20 Oct 18, 12:12 PM
Valentina: Thank you JP, Kien, and Cc
20 Oct 18, 12:12 PM
Valentina: Thank you for your answers Lin Mun and Swee Keong
20 Oct 18, 12:12 PM
Cc: A4.Added bonus for Rinpoche to live in Zong Ladrang was Rinpoche's room was directly opposite the tenkhang, the Protector Chapel where the Choyang Duldzin Oracle took trance of the enlightened protectors Dorje Shugden and Setrap. Rinpoche would frequently go to tenkhang to attend oracular trances or to take part in the monthly pujas to Dorje Shugden. Rinpoche received the oral transmission of the DSdivination text or mö, which uses six-sided dice. This text was composed by Dorje Shugden himself and in use till today.
20 Oct 18, 12:11 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Swee Keong for Q4's answer :)
20 Oct 18, 12:11 PM
Kien Wong: Ans 2: Rinpoche was new in LA. He is looking for jobs to sustain his living. Gesha-la asked Rinpoche to ask for Dharmapala to help him. Within few days, Rinpoche got his new job.
Till later that Rinpoche learned that the Dharmapala in the thangka was Dorje Shugden, and it was the same deity Rinpoche saw in the closet at Rashi Gempil Ling in Howell.
20 Oct 18, 12:11 PM
jp: 3. Who ordained Rinpoche and who was there to support him? (State his age and the year). How did Rinpoche feel about the whole event? HH the 14th Dalai Lama ordained Rinpoche. Sharpa Rinpoche was there to support him This was in 1987 when Rinpoche was 22 years old. Rinpoche was very excited that he could finally be part of a monastery.
20 Oct 18, 12:10 PM
Joy_Moderator: Hint hint for Q5 --->>> https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/the-promise-4th-edition/thepromise130.jpg
20 Oct 18, 12:10 PM
sweekeong: 4. Zong Ladrang was directly opposite of Protector Chapel where Choyang Dulzin Oracle took trances. Rinpoche frequently attend the oracles trances or Dorje Shugden puja. Rinpoche received oral transmission of Dorje Shugden divination text. The Dorje Shugden divination, or mö, uses six-sided dice for divining answer to people question. Rinpoche has benefit many with this divination which can give precise answers.
20 Oct 18, 12:09 PM
Lin Mun: A3 : HH 14th Dalai Lama ordained Rinpoche. He was supported by Sharpa Rinpoche. Rinpoche was ordained in year 1987 at the age of 22 years old. Rinpoche felt that his childhood wish has fulfilled
20 Oct 18, 12:09 PM
Joy_Moderator: 5. After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 who did Rinpoche meet in Kathmandu? How did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is?
20 Oct 18, 12:09 PM
Valentina: Thank you Alice, Pastor Antoinette and Freon for your answers to question no. 4
20 Oct 18, 12:09 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Alice, Pastor Antoinette and Freon for your answers :)
20 Oct 18, 12:08 PM
freon: A4: The added bonus for Rinpoche to live in Zong Ladrang was Rinpoche’s room was located directly opposite the tenkhang, the protector chapel, where the Choyang Dulzin Oracle would take trance of the enlightened Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden and Setrap. Rinpoche would frequently go to tenkhang to attend oracular trances or to take part in the monthly pujas to Dorje Shugden.
During this time, Rinpoche received oral transmission of the Dorje Shugden divination text, which was composed by Dorje Shugden himself. Which until today, Rinpoche uses for the benefit of many people

9 year in Gaden, Rinpoche engaged in many retreats, deep study and doing massive charity works for the Sangha and lay community

And he was recognize as a Tulku in Gaden
20 Oct 18, 12:08 PM
Pastor Antoinette: 4. What was the added bonus for Rinpoche when he was living in Zong Ladrang when he was in Gaden Monastery? During this time what did Rinpoche receive?

-Zong Ladrang and Rinpoche's room was directly opposite the tenkhang, the Protector Chapel where the Choyang Duldzin Oracle took trance of the enlightened protectors Dorje Shugden and Setrap.
-Rinpoche received the oral transmission of the Dorje Shugden divination text or mö, which uses six-sided dice. This text was composed by Dorje Shugden himself. Rinpoche uses it to benefit many people.
20 Oct 18, 12:07 PM
Alice: 4. What was the added bonus for Rinpoche when he was living in Zong Ladrang when he was in Gaden Monastery? During this time what did Rinpoche receive?
Ans: The added bonus was Rinpoche can frequently run across the narrow lane to the tenkhang to attend oracular trances or simply to participate in the monthly pujas to Dorje Shugden.
During one of these trances, Rinpoche received the oral tramission of the Dorje Shugden divination text, which was composed by Dorje Shugden himself.
20 Oct 18, 12:07 PM
Joy_Moderator: 5. After Rinpoche’s ordination in 1987 who did Rinpoche meet in Kathmandu? How did they meet and what did this Mahasiddha say to Rinpoche that was extremely significant and would later prove who Rinpoche is?
20 Oct 18, 12:07 PM
jp: 2. How did Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden and started doing his practice when he was in TDL? Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later? Rinpoche wanted to get a higher paying job so that he didn't have to work 3 jobs to cover his expenses. The 3 jobs left Rinpoche with very little time to study dharma. Geshe-la advised Rinpoche to practice Dorje Shugden and request him for help. This wasn't the first time that Rinpoche encountered Dorje Shugden. The first time was in Rashi Gempil Ling in New Jersey.
20 Oct 18, 12:06 PM
Joy_Moderator: 4. What was the added bonus for Rinpoche when he was living in Zong Ladrang when he was in Gaden Monastery? During this time what did Rinpoche receive?

- The added bonus living in Zong Ladrang was that Rinpoche’s room was located directly opposite the Protector Chapel (tenkhang) where the Choyang Duldzin Oracle would take trance of Dorje Shugden and Setrap.
- Rinpoche would often run across there to attend the oracular trances or to participate in the monthly Dorje Shugden pujas.
- During one of the many trances, Rinpoche received the oral transmission of Dorje Shugden divination text, which was composed by Dorje Shugden himself.
- The Dorje Shugden divination uses a six-sided dice and produces very clear and accurate answers which till this day, Rinpoche uses to help many people.
20 Oct 18, 12:06 PM
Valentina: Good answer Grace :D
20 Oct 18, 12:06 PM
Joy_Moderator: Good and complete answer Grace :)
20 Oct 18, 12:06 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thanks Victor :)
20 Oct 18, 12:06 PM
Grace: 4. What was the added bonus for Rinpoche when he was living in Zong Ladrang when he was in Gaden Monastery? During this time what did Rinpoche receive?
The added bonus for Rinpoche when he was living in Zong Ladrang when he was in Gaden Monastery is Rinpoche’s room was located directly opposite the tenkhang, the Protector Chapel, where the Choyang Duldzin Oracle would take trance of the enlightened Dharma Protectors Dorje Shugden and Setrap. Rinpoche would frequently run across the narrow lane to the tenkhang to attend oracular trances or simply to participate in the monthly pujas to Dorje Shugden.
It was during one of these trances that Rinpoche received the oral transmission of the Dorje Shugden divination text, which was composed by DS himself. The DS divination, or mo, uses a six-sided dice and produces incredibly clear and precise answers which, until today, Rinpoche uses for the benefit of many people.
20 Oct 18, 12:05 PM
Valentina: Thank you Victor :)
20 Oct 18, 12:05 PM
Jacinta: Yup but anyway I hope it’s acceptable. A bit cumbersome to use phone
20 Oct 18, 12:05 PM
Victor.C: me too>>>>>Joy_Moderator: Jacinta I think you accidentally press enter before you finish
20 Oct 18, 12:04 PM
Joy_Moderator: Jacinta I think you accidentally press enter before you finish
20 Oct 18, 12:04 PM
Victor.C: A4.
- Added bonus to living in Zong Ladrang is Rinpoche’s room was located directly opposite the tenkhang, the Protector Chapel, where the Choyang Duldzin Oracle would take trance of the enlightened Dharma Protectors Dorje Shugden and Setrap.
- Rinpoche would frequently run across the narrow lane to the tenkhang to attend oracular trances or simply to participate in the monthly pujas to Dorje Shugden. It was during one of these trances that Rinpoche received the oral transmission of the Dorje Shugden divination text, which was composed by Dorje Shugden himself.
- The Dorje Shugden divination, or mö, uses a six-sided dice and produces incredibly clear and precise answers which, until today.
- Rinpoche uses for the benefit of many people.
20 Oct 18, 12:03 PM
Joy_Moderator: @Victor what did Rinpoche receive? One more point you missed.
20 Oct 18, 12:03 PM
Sofi: A3 : On 31 May, 1990 at the age 24 of Rinpoche was ordained by H.E. Kensur Jampa Yeshe Rinpoche and the oracular pronouncement of Gaden Shartse's Dharma Protectors, Setrap Chen and Dorje Shugden. There was no one to attend and rejoice at Rinpoche's ordination. Rinpoche was alone, nervous and unaccustomed to the procedures that he tripped over his robes and took off his hat at the wrong time. Although alone, Rinpoche focus on the motivation to benefit others and focused on why he was becoming a Rinpoche.
20 Oct 18, 12:03 PM
Jacinta: 4. The added benefit was Rinpoche staying directly opposite to Protector chapel (tenkhang) which is very near. Choyang Duldzin Rinpoche will often take trances if Dorje Shugden and also Setrap. Rinpoche would often go there for Monthly Puja or participate in the trances. During these trances, at one occasion Rinpoche received oral transmission of Dorje Shugden divination texts that later on Rinpoche benefitted many others through this divination which
20 Oct 18, 12:02 PM
Joy_Moderator: Dear Callista, Cindy and Grace... thank you for your answer... do check the answer that has been posted for accuracy :)
20 Oct 18, 12:02 PM
Victor.C: A4.
- added bonus living in Zong Ladrang is Rinpoche’s room was located directly opposite the tenkhang, the Protector Chapel, where the Choyang Duldzin Oracle would take trance of the enlightened Dharma Protectors Dorje Shugden and Setrap. Rinpoche would frequently run across the narrow lane to the tenkhang to attend oracular trances or simply to participate in the monthly pujas to Dorje Shugden.
20 Oct 18, 12:01 PM
Pastor Antoinette: 3. Who ordained Rinpoche and who was there to support him? (State his age and the year). How did Rinpoche feel about the whole event?

-Rinpoche got his monk vows from HH the 14th Dalai Lama in December 1987 in Dharamsala.
-Rinpoche had no support from his family and only Sharpa Rinpoche was present to congratulate him.
-Rinpoche felt that his childhood wish to enter monastic life was finally fulfilled.
20 Oct 18, 12:01 PM
Yee Yin: 3. Who ordained Rinpoche and who was there to support him? (State his age and the year). How did Rinpoche feel about the whole event?

Ans: It was the 14th Dalai Lama who ordained Rinpoche. He did not have any of his relative there to support him. The only person there to show some kind of support after the ceremony was Sharpa Rinpoche, whom Rinpoche had recently met. He was there to support and congratulate Rinpoche. It was in year 1987 that Rinpoche was ordained and he was 22 years old.
20 Oct 18, 12:00 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Alice for that link to a good reading >>> Nice article to read through: I’m Requesting Ordination in 1987 https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/me/requesting-ordination-in-1987.html
20 Oct 18, 11:59 AM
Grace: 3. Who ordained Rinpoche and who was there to support him? (State his age and the year). How did Rinpoche feel about the whole event?
Rinpoche, at age of 22, was ordinated by His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama in December 1987 in India. Ven Sharpa Tulku Rinpoche whom Rinpoche met at Dharamsala was with him. Rinpoche felt great devotion and tremendous of faith. Rinpoche also realized that his spiritual journey would not get support from anyone perhaps no one really understood it.
20 Oct 18, 11:59 AM
CindyH: A3: His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama (HHDL) ordained Rinpoche in 1987 when Rinpoche was 22 in India and Rinpoche was given the ordination name Tenzin Zopa by HHDL. Rinpoche was happy about his ordination and determined with his spiritual journey even without the support of his family. After all, Rinpoche was only greeted by a friend in Dharamsala, Ven. Sharpa Tulku Rinpoche (who stood outside the palace of the HHDL with a khata to greet and congratulate Rinpoche after the ceremony).
20 Oct 18, 11:58 AM
callista: A3: HH 14th Dalai Lama ordained Rinpoche at the age 22 and Rinpoche very happy as it was his lifetime’s dream to be a monk. He was given the ordination name Tenzin Zopa by His Holiness. Rinpoce had made one friend in Dharamsala. His name is Ven. Sharpa Tulku Rinpoche (translator). He alone stood outside the palace of the HH Dalai Lama with a khata to greet and congratulate me after the ceremony. He was the only person there for Rinpoche. Rinpoche realized his spiritual journey would not get support from anyone perhaps no one really understood it..Rinpoche sure his family had good reasons that they weren’t there..Rinpoche do not mean to blame, it was just what happened…
20 Oct 18, 11:58 AM
Cc: A3. In 1987, when Rinpoche was 22 years old. Rinpoche was ordained by HH 14th Dalai Lama. None of his family members support him.Only Ven. Sharpa Tulku Rinpoche was there to congratulate Rinpoche.
20 Oct 18, 11:58 AM
Alice: Nice article to read through: I’m Requesting Ordination in 1987 https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/me/requesting-ordination-in-1987.html
20 Oct 18, 11:57 AM
Joy_Moderator: 4. What was the added bonus for Rinpoche when he was living in Zong Ladrang when he was in Gaden Monastery? During this time what did Rinpoche receive?
20 Oct 18, 11:57 AM
Joy_Moderator: 3. Who ordained Rinpoche and who was there to support him? (State his age and the year). How did Rinpoche feel about the whole event?

- It was His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama who ordained Rinpoche, giving him his monks vows and ordination name “Tenzin Zopa”.
- Unlike most families, Rinpoche had no one there to give him support after the ceremony but it did not deter the young Rinpoche. The only person there to show some kind of support after the ceremony was Sharpa Rinpoche, whom Rinpoche had recently met, who was there to support and congratulate Rinpoche. It was 1987 and Rinpoche was 22 years old then.
- Despite being alone and having no one, Rinpoche was undeterred and instead excited that his wish to enter monastic life was finally fulfilled.
20 Oct 18, 11:56 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you @Victor :)
20 Oct 18, 11:56 AM
freon: _/\_
20 Oct 18, 11:56 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you @Freon, good answer :)
20 Oct 18, 11:55 AM
Valentina: Good morning JP, nice chatting with you this morning.
20 Oct 18, 11:55 AM
Victor.C: A3.
- Rinpoche was ordained by His Holiness The 14th Dalai Lama in December 1987 in Dharamsala.
- Rinpoche was felt lonely at that time after ordination but at the same time Rinpoche felt excited that his childhood wished was fulfilled
- Sharpa Rinpoche was the only person congratulate Rinpoche as other monk have relative and friends around].
20 Oct 18, 11:55 AM
freon: A3: In year 1987, December Rinpoche was 22 years old. Rinpoche received his monk vow from H.H Dalai Lama.
Sharpa Rinpoche whom Rinpoche newly met was there to support him.

Rinpoche was excited that his childhood wish to enter monastic life was finally fulfilled
20 Oct 18, 11:55 AM
Valentina: Thank you Callista :) - callista: Valentine: Answer-Ven. Sharpa Tulku Rinpoche (translator)
20 Oct 18, 11:55 AM
jp: 1. During Rinpoche’s initial period at TDL, what did Geshe-la advise Rinpoche to do, which Rinpoche was reluctant to in the beginning? At the end what happened and what was the precious advice Geshe-la gave Rinpoche? Geshe-la advised Rinpoche to call his foster mother, Dana and apologize to her for all the negative things he said and did to her. Dana hung up on Rinpoche. When Rinpoche told Geshe-la what happened, Geshe-la said that he has severed the negative karma with his mother so that he will not hurt her again in the future. Geshe-la added that if Rinpoche wanted to gain attainments, he needs to accept karma and let go.
20 Oct 18, 11:54 AM
callista: Valentine: Answer-Ven. Sharpa Tulku Rinpoche (translator)
20 Oct 18, 11:53 AM
Joy_Moderator: Very good Alice :)
20 Oct 18, 11:53 AM
Lin Mun: A2 : Rinpoche asked Geshe-la for a practice that would help him get a job closer to the centre. Gesha-la recommended that Rinpoche pray to Dharmapala (which was a thangka in Geshe-la’s room). Geshe-la saod “He will help you to get the job you want”. Rinpoche immediately prostrated to the thangka and at Geshe-la’s instruction verbally requested for the Dharmapala’s help.

The first encounter with Dharmapala was when Rinpoche was in Lothar’s room and opened his closet. Rinpoche realized later that the picture he saw in Lothar’s room is Dorje Shugden.
20 Oct 18, 11:53 AM
Valentina: Good morning Callista
20 Oct 18, 11:53 AM
Joy_Moderator: Hi Callista, try again :)
20 Oct 18, 11:53 AM
Valentina: Thank you Alice :)
20 Oct 18, 11:52 AM
Valentina: Thank you Callista, but who was there to support Rinpoche during his ordination?
20 Oct 18, 11:52 AM
callista: Good morning Rinpoche, Pastors, Moderators and everyone
20 Oct 18, 11:52 AM
Alice: 3. Who ordained Rinpoche and who was there to support him? (State his age and the year). How did Rinpoche feel about the whole event?
Ans:His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama ordained Rinpoche in 1987 (age 22 years old). A friend in Dharamsala, Ven. Sharpa Tulku Rinpoche alone stood outside the palace of the HH Dalai Lama with a khata to greet and congratulate me after the ceremony.
Rinpoche realized that his spiritual journey would not get support from anyone perhaps no one really understood it..Rinpoche sure his family had good reasons that they weren’t there..Rinpoche did not mean to blame, it was just what happened…
20 Oct 18, 11:51 AM
callista: A3: On December 1987,His Eminence Tsem Rinpoche was ordained by HH 14th Dalai Lama ordained. None of the family members or friend is present during the ceremony. He was so happy when his dream is fulfilled and finally became a monk at the age of 22
20 Oct 18, 11:51 AM
Jacinta: 3. Rinpoche was ordained by His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama at Dharamsala India. Sharpa Rinpoche was the only congratulate him. They were two other men who were with Rinpoche to take ordination. It was back in the year 1987 when Rinpoche was 22years old. He rejoiced deeply for what he has done although there were basically no family supporting Him
20 Oct 18, 11:51 AM
Valentina: Thank you Pastor Antoinette :)
20 Oct 18, 11:51 AM
sweekeong: 3. Dalai Lama ordained Rinpoche in 1987, India when he was 22 years old. Sharpa Rinpoche was with Rinpoche while other monks have families with them. Rinpoche was excited that his childhood of becoming a monk in monastery has been fulfilled.
20 Oct 18, 11:51 AM
Valentina: Thank you Freon and Wai Meng for your answer to question no. 2
20 Oct 18, 11:50 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 2. How did Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden and started doing his practice when he was in TDL? Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later?

Rinpoche asked Geshe-la a practice to help him succeed to get a job closer to the centre as he was young and lacked experience. The advice from Geshe-la was to pray to the Dharmapala on the thangka in Geshe-la's room. Three days later Rinpoche got the job at Fotomat.

Later Rinpoche learned that the deity in the thangka was Dorje Shugden.
20 Oct 18, 11:50 AM
Valentina: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/chat-pictures/chat-9dmfa5blx4145.jpg - Kyabje Zong Rinpoche was Tsem Rinpoche's root guru. Although their time together was so short, Tsem Rinpoche treasured all his advice very much.
20 Oct 18, 11:49 AM
Wan Wai Meng: 2. How did Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden and started doing his practice when he was in TDL? Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later? A2. - Rinpoche at one point needed a higher paying work that was closer to TDL, and he was having trouble finding that job. So Rinpoche consulted Geshe-la.

Geshe-la told Rinpoche, that the deity at a particular thangka will help Rinpoche to get the job he needed. The deity was Dorje Shudgen. Then Rinpoche prostrated to the thangka and made prayers to the Dharmapala. Three days later Fotomat called Rinpoche, which was 30 minutes by bus to the center, which was a huge improvement from 2-3 hours journey he had to endure earlier.

Rinpoche then realized Dorje Shugden was the deity he saw years ago at Rashi Gempil Ling, before he was stopped by Lothar.
20 Oct 18, 11:49 AM
freon: messageA2: Rinpoche’s financial was so bad that he would occasionally resort to eating the old unsold food and he have to work for 3 jobs to get money. After consideration the amount of time it took to travel to the work place, Rinpoche began to applying to higher-paying jobs and closer to TDL. But Rinpoche was afraid that his age and lack of experience would not get the job. Thus, Rinpoche asked Geshe-la for a practice he could succeed. Geshe-la pointed to Dorje Shugden’s thangka in his room and told Rinpoche to pray do Dharmapala if he want to get the job he want.
This is not the 1st encounter Rinpoche with Dorje Shugden, the 1st encounter was back to when he was in Rashi Gempil Ling
20 Oct 18, 11:47 AM
Valentina: Good morning Lin Mun. Thank you Victor and Sofi for your answer to question no. 2
20 Oct 18, 11:47 AM
Joy_Moderator: Good morning Lin Mun :) Welcome
20 Oct 18, 11:46 AM
Joy_Moderator: 3. Who ordained Rinpoche and who was there to support him? (State his age and the year). How did Rinpoche feel about the whole event?
20 Oct 18, 11:46 AM
Lin Mun: A1 : Geshe-la requested Rinpoche to call Dana and apologise

Rinpoche reluctant because it was Dana who abused him.

Geshe-la’s advised wsa “ Because you don’t only look at the negative things your mother did- you have to look at the positive. Your’re here. Someone feed you. Someone gave you a house. You’re here in the centre learning Dharma due to her kindness. You call her and say you’re sorry for the things you said to her and for the things you thought about her”. Rinpoche asked what if she hang up the phone. Geshe-la answered “its okay. At least you tried so that when you do your sadhana, it comes from your heart, it is real”
20 Oct 18, 11:46 AM
Lin Mun: Good morning Rinpoche and everyone
20 Oct 18, 11:44 AM
Victor.C: A2.
- Rinpoche had a very bad financial situation during the time when Rinpoche was in Thubten Dhargye Ling in Los Angeles.
- Rinpoche requested Geshe-la for practice that would help him succeed and continue to study dharma in TDL.
- Geshe-la pointed to the Thangka (Dorje Shugden) "pray for this Dharmapala and he will help you"
20 Oct 18, 11:44 AM
Valentina: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/chat-pictures/chat-9dmfa59399501.jpg - Tsem Rinpoche made a promise to Zong Rinpoche to be ordained as a monk. Zong Rinpoche was very please and cut Rinpoche's hair.
20 Oct 18, 11:43 AM
Sofi: A2 : Rinpoche seek advise from Geshe-la on how to succeed in getting a job that is closer to the centre which was of higher pay but above his level of experience. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche pointed to a thangka and said "Pray to Dharmapala. He will help you get the job you want". Rinpoche immediately prostrated to the thangka and at Geshe-la's instruction, verbally requested the Dharmapala's help. Three days later Rinpoche received a phone call on his successful application of the job he wanted. This was the 2nd encounter with the Dharmapala and Rinpoche realised that the Dharmapala was Dorje Shugden and it was the same deity seen in the closet at Rashi Gempil Ling in Howell.
20 Oct 18, 11:42 AM
Pastor Shin: @Victor, please look at question 2 again, you may want to extend your answer - Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later?
20 Oct 18, 11:41 AM
Valentina: Good morning Pastor Antoinette. Thank you for your answer and CC too :)
20 Oct 18, 11:41 AM
Joy_Moderator: 3. Who ordained Rinpoche and who was there to support him? (State his age and the year). How did Rinpoche feel about the whole event?
20 Oct 18, 11:41 AM
Joy_Moderator: Good morning Pastor Antoinette :)
20 Oct 18, 11:41 AM
Cc: A2.Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden when he was trying to apply for higher paying jobs closer to TDL and Geshe-la introduce DS to Rinpoche and started his practice DS . Few days layer Rinpoche got the job.No is the 2nd time.The first time Rinpoche encountered DS was when he happened to saw in closet in Rashi Gempil Ling .
20 Oct 18, 11:41 AM
Pastor Antoinette: Good morning Rinpoche, good morning Joy and everyone

Q1. During Rinpoche’s initial period at TDL, what did Geshe-la advise Rinpoche to do, which Rinpoche was reluctant to in the beginning? At the end what happened and what was the precious advice Geshe-la gave Rinpoche?

Geshe-la advised Rinpoche to call his mother and apologise for hurting her, apologising for what Rinpche said to her and thought about her. When Rinpoche called his mother hung up on him like Rinpoche expected her to do.

Geshe-la gave Rinpoche the following advice: "If you want to practise Dharma, if you want to gain attainments and if you want to progress, you have to accept that it's your karma. You have to let it go."
20 Oct 18, 11:41 AM
Victor.C: 2.
- During the time Rinpoche was in Thubten Dhargye Ling in Los Angeles.
20 Oct 18, 11:41 AM
Joy_Moderator: 3. Who ordained Rinpoche and who was there to support him? (State his age and the year). How did Rinpoche feel about the whole event?
20 Oct 18, 11:40 AM
Joy_Moderator: 2. How did Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden and started doing his practice when he was in TDL? Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later?

- After Rinpoche moved to TDL, Rinpoche started to apply for higher-paying jobs so he can make ends meet and be closer to the Dharma centre. But Rinpoche was afraid he would not get a job due to his age and lack of experience. So Rinpoche explained to Geshe-la his situation and asked Geshe-la for a practice that would help him succeed.
- Geshe-la pointed to a thangka in his room and told Rinpoche, “Pray to Dharmapala. He will help you get the job you want.” Immediately Rinpoche prostrated to the thangka and requested for Dharmapala’s help. Three days later Rinpoche received a call from Fotomat, stating he got the job, which was just 30 minutes from the centre by bus.
- It was not until later that Rinpoche learned that the Dharmapala in the thangka was Dorje Shugden and it was the same deity Rinpoche saw in the closet at Rashi Gempil Ling in Howell.
20 Oct 18, 11:40 AM
Valentina: Thank you Kien and Wai Meng for your answer to question no. 1
20 Oct 18, 11:40 AM
Joy_Moderator: Very good answers from Alice and Grace :)
20 Oct 18, 11:39 AM
Grace: 2. How did Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden and started doing his practice when he was in TDL? Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later?
Answer: Rinpoche was trying to apply for higher-paying jobs closer to the TDL and has asked Geshe-la for a practice that would help him succeed, explaining why getting a job closer to the centre was so important to him. Geshe-la pointed to a thangka in his room and told Rinpoche to pray to Dharmapala and he will help Rinpoche to get the job he wanted. Immediately, Rinpoche prostrated to the thangka and at Geshe-la’s instruction, verbally requested for the Dharmapala’s help. This was Rinpoche’s second encounter with the Dharmapala. The first time Rinpoche encountered Dharmapala was when he saw the protector in Lothar’s closet at Rashi Gempil Ling where later he realized is Dorje Shugden . Three days later Rinpoche received a phone call from Fotomat, just 30 min from the centre by bus, telling him that his application was successful.
20 Oct 18, 11:39 AM
Alice: 2. How did Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden and started doing his practice when he was in TDL? Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later?
Ans: Rinpoche wanted to get closer to the Dharma centre and therefore he moved to TDL. But Rinpoche afraid that his age and lack of experience would work against him, Rinpoche asked Geshe-la for a practice that would help him succeed, explaining why getting a job closer to the centre was so important to him. In response, Geshe-la pointed to Dorje Shugden thangka in his room and told Rinpoche pray to Dharmapala and he will get the job he want.
No. This was 2nd time. Rinpoche only came to realise this Dharmapala was Dorje Shugden which was the same deity he ha seen in the closet of Lothar at Rashi Gempil Ling in Howell.
20 Oct 18, 11:39 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you @Cindy :)
20 Oct 18, 11:38 AM
Wan Wai Meng: 1. During Rinpoche’s initial period at TDL, what did Geshe-la advise Rinpoche to do, which Rinpoche was reluctant to in the beginning? At the end what happened and what was the precious advice Geshe-la gave Rinpoche? -

A1 - Rinpoche was adviced by Geshe La to apologize to his mother for *hurting* her all these years. Rinpoche after going through years of abuse was initially reluctant and hesitant to do so. At the end Rinpoche called his mother, and she hung up on him as how he expected. This was momentous for Rinpoche.

Then he told Geshe-la this, and without any praise or encouragement, Geshe-la told Rinpoche to go make a cup of tea for him. The advice Geshe-la gave was that if one wanted to be a monk then one had to be a kind person, and one mustn't hold on to suffering and pain from the past.
20 Oct 18, 11:38 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Jacinta... good answer :)
20 Oct 18, 11:36 AM
WeiTheng: Good morning all
20 Oct 18, 11:36 AM
CindyH: A2: Rinpoche was looking for a higher paying job to sustain himself and ideally nearer to centre when Rinpoche was introduced to Dorje Shugden by Geshe-la (only by mention as Dharmapala without details). In essence, after Gesha’s explanation and indication to pray to Dharmapala (DS), Rinpoche prostrated and verbally requested for Dharmapala (DS)’s help. This is Rinpoche’s second encounter (the first being when Rinpoche sneaked into Lothar’s room and opened his closet). Rinpoche only later realised the Dharmapala in question was Dorje Shugden.
20 Oct 18, 11:36 AM
Jacinta: 2. Rinpoche asked advice from Geshe-la about His job as Rinpoche would like to get a nearby job so that He can support Himself and also to practice Dharma at TDL. Geshe-la introduced Dorje Shugden to Rinpoche and asked Him to pray to DS. Rinpoche did so and miraculouslya few days after He got the job offer! However, this was not the first encounter of Rinpoche with Dorje Shugden. Rinpoche saw DS before when He peeked at Lothar’s closet when they were at Rinpoche first Guru’s centre in Rashi Gempil Ling, back in New Jersey. At that time, Rinpoche did enquire Lothar about the mysterious Deity that He saw but He was denied an answer for that.
20 Oct 18, 11:35 AM
Joy_Moderator: @Grace also good answer but there is a last point you did not mentioned?
20 Oct 18, 11:34 AM
Kien Wong: Ans 1: Geshe –la asked Rinpoche to apologise to his adoption mother, Dana. Eventually, Rinpoche call up and success to talk to her and apologise. So as Gesha-la explain to Rinpoche that he must have the karma to face those abuse during the years. And Rinpoche must accept it. So that karma will not happen in again.
20 Oct 18, 11:34 AM
Joy_Moderator: Very good synopsis answer @SweeKeong :)
20 Oct 18, 11:33 AM
Grace: 2. How did Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden and started doing his practice when he was in TDL? Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later?
Answer: Rinpoche was trying to apply for higher-paying jobs closer to the TDL and has asked Geshe-la for a practice that would help him succeed, explaining why getting a job closer to the centre was so important to him. Geshe-la pointed to a thangka in his room and told Rinpoche to pray to Dharmapala and he will help Rinpoche to get the job he wanted. Immediately, Rinpoche prostrated to the thangka and at Geshe-la’s instruction, verbally requested for the Dharmapala’s help. This was Rinpoche’s second encounter with the Dharmapala. Three days later Rinpoche received a phone call from Fotomat, just 30 min from the centre by bus, telling him that his application was successful.
20 Oct 18, 11:33 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Sofi... you can take a look at my answer and compare what's missing ;) It will help you to answer Q2 better.
20 Oct 18, 11:32 AM
sweekeong: 2. Rinpoche was looking for higher paying job near the Dharma centre but afraid he can't get any due to lack of experience. He consulted Geshe-la and was told to pray to Dharmapala and got his job in 3 days. No, the first time Rinpoche encountered Dharmapala was when he happened to saw in closet in Rashi Gempil Ling which later he realised to be the same Dharmapala Dorje Shugden.
20 Oct 18, 11:32 AM
Valentina: Thank you Sofi for your answer
20 Oct 18, 11:31 AM
Sofi: A1 : Geshe-la advise Rinpoche to call his mother, Dana and apologise for hurting her despite her abuse of him. Rinpoche was shocked and asked why should he when he was the one who was abused. Geshe-la advised him to look with gratitude of what Dana had done rather than the negative and it was due to her kindness that Rinpoche could be in the centre learning Dharma. Rinpoche took his Guru's advice and called his mother. Dana hung up on Rinpoche and Rinpoche's Guru said that at least Rinpoche had tried and he can be true and real when doing his sadhana. Now looking back, Rinpoche is glad that he had cut the negative karma to stop hurting her again in the future.
20 Oct 18, 11:31 AM
Rachael Lu: Good morning Pastor😀
20 Oct 18, 11:30 AM
Valentina: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/chat-pictures/chat-9dmfa55c61232.jpg - Hints for answer no 2 :D
20 Oct 18, 11:28 AM
Victor.C: Welcome Valentina.. thank you for further extend my answer.
20 Oct 18, 11:28 AM
Pastor Shin: Good morning Rachel. Welcome to the blog chat.
20 Oct 18, 11:28 AM
Valentina: Thank you Victor :)
20 Oct 18, 11:28 AM
Victor.C: Geshe-La advised Rinpoche do not look at the negative things she did but look at the positive things she had done for Rinpoche, ie,
- feed Rinpoche,
- give Rinpoche a home (to stay).
- By looking at the positive things is part of practicing dharma to gain attaiments.
20 Oct 18, 11:28 AM
Joy_Moderator: 2. How did Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden and started doing his practice when he was in TDL? Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later?
20 Oct 18, 11:27 AM
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20 Oct 18, 11:27 AM
Valentina: Good morning Rachel, nice to chatting with you here this morning
20 Oct 18, 11:26 AM
Rachael Lu: Hello Rinpoche & everyone
20 Oct 18, 11:26 AM
Joy_Moderator: 2. How did Rinpoche discover Dorje Shugden and started doing his practice when he was in TDL? Was this his first encounter with the Dharmapala and what did Rinpoche realise later?
20 Oct 18, 11:26 AM
Joy_Moderator: 1. During Rinpoche’s initial period at TDL, what did Geshe-la advise Rinpoche to do, which Rinpoche was reluctant to in the beginning? At the end what happened and what was the precious advice Geshe-la gave Rinpoche?

- Geshe-la advised Rinpoche to contact his adoptive mother, Dana, and apologise for “hurting” her despite the years of abuse.
- Rinpoche wondered why should he apologise since he was the one who was abused for years and felt he had not done anything wrong.
- Geshe-la’s response was “Because you don’t only look at the negative things your mother did – you have to look at the positive. You’re here. Someone fed you. Someone gave you a house. You’re here in the centre learning Dharma due to her kindness. You call her and say you’re sorry for the things you said to her and for the things you thought about her.”
- Dana hung up on Rinpoche as Rinpoche expected but Rinpoche did what his Guru advised him to do. Contacting her was very emotional for Rinpoche at the time and after it was done, Rinpoche informed Geshe-la and Geshe-la said “Okay, that’s good, now go make me a cup of tea.” There was no pat on the back or praise.
- Geshe-la told Rinpoche, “You didn’t do anything now but you must have done something in your previous life to get this. Either you accept karma or you don’t” and following that, he said, “if you want to practise Dharma, if you want to gain attainments and if you want to progress, you have to accept that it’s your karma. You have to let it go”. And this was the precious advised Geshe-la gave Rinpoche.
20 Oct 18, 11:24 AM
Valentina: Dear Victor, What did Geshe-la advise re Rinpoche did not feel that he did anything wrong?
20 Oct 18, 11:24 AM
Cc: A1. Add on.Geshe-la emphasized that if we want to practice and gain attainments ,we have to accept our karma.
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