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10 Jun 18, 10:06 PM
Liang Jing: goodnight Rinpoche and everyone.10 Jun 18, 10:06 PM
Nicklaus: Okay guys thats all for today! Thank you for joining tonight!10 Jun 18, 10:05 PM
Nicklaus: Q2: Orangutans are really starting to be endangered as illegal lodging always happens at night as the latest news article regarding about their popularion. Deforestations along with littering will definitely cause some health problems towards the animals.10 Jun 18, 10:04 PM
Nicklaus: @jutika littering in the pool by civilians as well10 Jun 18, 10:03 PM
Nicklaus: @pavara nice deforestation is definitely the main cause of them all dissapearing10 Jun 18, 10:02 PM
Liang Jing: Q2: Some of these animals are endangered, explain which of them are and why are they becoming an endangered animal. ANS: Malayan Pangolin, because they are hunted for their scales and other body parts believed to have medicinal properties by practitioners of alternative medicine.10 Jun 18, 10:01 PM
Jutika Lam: Some of these animals are endangered, explain which of them are and why are they becoming an endangered animal. Some animals which are endangered are the Malayan Roundleaf Bat, Bornean Bearded Pig and Leatherback Sea Turtle. These animals and many more are endangered due to aggressive hunting, water pollution and commercial fishing.10 Jun 18, 10:00 PM
Liang Jing: Q1: Which is your favourite animela and why? Ans:Malayan Flying Lemur, because it is able to glide up to a distance of 100m (328ft). It is very cool10 Jun 18, 10:00 PM
pavara lam: Q2: Some of these animals are endangered, explain which of them are and why are they becoming an endangered animal. Ans: Sumatran Rhinos are endangered due to poachers and deforestation.10 Jun 18, 09:59 PM
Nicklaus: Good evening Liang Jing! 2 questions has been released below10 Jun 18, 09:57 PM
Liang Jing: Hello Rinpoche nd everyone, sorry I'm late10 Jun 18, 09:53 PM
Nicklaus: Q2: Some of these animals are endangered, explain which of them are and why are they becoming an endangered animal.10 Jun 18, 09:52 PM
Nicklaus: Good answers guys!10 Jun 18, 09:51 PM
Nicklaus: Q1 ANS: Mine will definitely be the Malayan tiger as it such an amazing animal as I am quite fond of cats especially the big ones10 Jun 18, 09:48 PM
Jutika Lam: Which is your favourite animal and why? My favorite one is the Malayan Peacock-Pheasant because to me it is a very unique type of animal. When one mentions peacock we usually imagine a spontaneous and large sized bird, but the Malayan Peacock Pheasant is considerably smaller.10 Jun 18, 09:48 PM
pavara lam: Q1: Which is your favourite animela and why? Ans: Rhinoceros hornbills. I like the fact that they have a very odd shaped casque at the top of its beak.10 Jun 18, 09:44 PM
Jutika Lam: Hello everyone, sorry im late10 Jun 18, 09:43 PM
Nicklaus: Q1: Which is your favourite animela and why?10 Jun 18, 09:41 PM
Nicklaus: Okay lets start the blog discussion10 Jun 18, 09:40 PM
pavara lam: hello everyone10 Jun 18, 09:37 PM
Nicklaus: Is anybody ready for this weeks yak blog chat?10 Jun 18, 09:31 PM
Nicklaus: Good evening everyone!9 Jun 18, 12:21 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Victor and Sofi. See you next week9 Jun 18, 12:18 PM
Sofi: Thank you Rinpoche. Thank you Valentina for moderating and everyone9 Jun 18, 12:16 PM
Victor.C: A5. - Foyin Liaoyuan is aA5.
- Foyin Liaoyuan is a Chan Master Buddhist Master.
- Master Foyin showed Su Shi that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be when Master Foyin would offer some sort of praise for his work, and was anxious to receive his reply when Su Shi saw that all Master Foyin wrote was, "BREAK WIND" Flushed with anger.
- To his surprise, the master was waiting for him at the front gate of the temple.
- With little effort and a few strokes of his pen, Master Foyin showed Su Shi that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be. If he had overcome the eight worldly concerns, he would not have gotten angry at the words “break wind” and crossed the river just to confront the master.
- Su Shi vowed to be more humble, and not a person who simply boasted of possessing virtue.
9 Jun 18, 12:14 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Antoinette and Julia 
9 Jun 18, 12:13 PM
Julia: A6: After he was imprisoned, his views changed: “Since my imprisonment I have not killed a single thing… having experienced such worry and danger myself, when I felt just like a fowl waiting in the kitchen, I can no longer bear to cause any living creature to suffer immeasurable fright and pain simply to please my palate.”9 Jun 18, 12:13 PM
Pastor Antoinette: Thank you Rinpoche, thank you Valentina and everyone. Have a great day ahead.9 Jun 18, 12:12 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Rinpoche for the opportunity to learn and everyone for joining today's blog chat. Do not forget to do your dedication...9 Jun 18, 12:11 PM
Joy: Next Blog Chat Topic... The 4th Zhabdrung Rinpoche of Bhutan and Dorje Shugden Focusing on Zhabdrung Rinpoche especially the 4th one http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/the-4th-zhabdrung-rinpoche-of-bhutan-and-dorje-shugden.html9 Jun 18, 12:11 PM
Valentina_moderator: 6. What changed Su Shi’s view and encouraged him to resist his craving for certain non-vegetarian food such as clams?Su Shi changed his view about resisting cravings of certain non-vegetarian food after he was imprisoned. After having experienced worry and danger to his life, he felt like a fowl waiting in the kitchen and could no longer bear to cause any living creature to suffer immeasurable fright and pain simply to please his palate.
9 Jun 18, 12:09 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Adeline and Sofi for the correct answer9 Jun 18, 12:09 PM
Sofi: A6 : Although Su Shi was never comfortable with killing of animals for food and was mainly vegetarian, he couldn't resist eating clams. It was uring his imprisonment, Su Shi realised the state of an animal to be killed when he said “Since my imprisonment I have not killed a single thing… having experienced such worry and danger myself, when I felt just like a fowl waiting in the kitchen, I can no longer bear to cause any living creature to suffer immeasurable fright and pain simply to please my palate.”
9 Jun 18, 12:08 PM
Pastor Adeline: A6. Su Shi himself had stated that he was never comfortable with killing animals for his dinner, and supported a vegetarian lifestyle. However, he had cravings for certain foods, such as clams, that he could not resist. After he was imprisoned, his views changed: “Since my imprisonment I have not killed a single thing… having experienced such worry and danger myself, when I felt just like a fowl waiting in the kitchen, I can no longer bear to cause any living creature to suffer immeasurable fright and pain simply to please my palate.”9 Jun 18, 12:08 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin and Joy for your correct answer9 Jun 18, 12:07 PM
Joy: 6. What changed Su Shi’s view and encouraged him to resist his craving for certain non-vegetarian food such as clams?Su Shi himself tated that he was never comfortable with killing animals for his dinner, and supported a vegetarian lifestyle. However, he had cravings for certain foods, such as clams, that he could not resist. After he was imprisoned, his changed his views and said, “Since my imprisonment I have not killed a single thing… having experienced such worry and danger myself, when I felt just like a fowl waiting in the kitchen, I can no longer bear to cause any living creature to suffer immeasurable fright and pain simply to please my palate.”
9 Jun 18, 12:07 PM
Pastor Shin: A6. After he was imprisoned, his views changed. Since his imprisonment, he has not killed a single thing. Having experienced such worry and danger himself, when he felt just like a fowl waiting in the kitchen, he can no longer bear to cause any living creature to suffer immeasurable fright and pain simply to please his palate.9 Jun 18, 12:06 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Antoinette and Sofi9 Jun 18, 12:04 PM
Sofi: A5 : Foyin Liaoyuan was a renown Chan Master whom Su Shi had a very close relationship. With little effort and a few strokes of his pen, Master Foyin showed Su Shi that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be. Once in meditation Su Shi thought he had overcome the eight worldly concerns and sent Master Foyin Liaoyuan his composition with expectation of praise. However the Master sent back the word "break wind". Angered Su Shi crossed the river to confront the Master who made him realised he would not have gotten angry at the words “break wind” and crossed the river just to confront the master if he had overcame the eight worldly concerns. Ashamed but wiser, Su Shi departed quietly. This event proved to be a turning point in Su Shi’s spiritual development. He vowed to be more humble, and not a person who simply boasted of possessing virtue.9 Jun 18, 12:04 PM
Pastor Antoinette: 6. What changed Su Shi’s view and encouraged him to resist his craving for certain non-vegetarian food such as clams?Su Shi said that: “Since my imprisonment I have not killed a single thing… having experienced such worry and danger myself, when I felt just like a fowl waiting in the kitchen, I can no longer bear to cause any living creature to suffer immeasurable fright and pain simply to please my palate.”
9 Jun 18, 12:01 PM
Valentina_moderator: 6. What changed Su Shi’s view and encouraged him to resist his craving for certain non-vegetarian food such as clams?9 Jun 18, 12:01 PM
Valentina_moderator: Last question...9 Jun 18, 12:01 PM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Julia for your answer to question no. 59 Jun 18, 12:00 PM
Valentina_moderator: 5. Who was Foyin Liaoyuan? How did Su Shi realise that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be?Foyin Liaoyuan was a renowned Chan Buddhist master whom Su Shi met when he was stationed in Huangzhou County.
Su Shi realised that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be after Foyin Liaoyuan mocked Su Shi’s poem which implied he would no longer be affected by the eight worldly concerns. After he wrote this poem, Su Shi expected approval and validation from Master Foyin, but instead, the Chan master sent him a two-letter work, “break wind.” Su Shi was angry at this remark.
Master Foyin then showed Su Shi that if he had overcome the eight worldly concerns, he would not have gotten angry at the words “break wind” and crossed the river just to confront the master. Ashamed but wiser, Su Shi departed quietly. This event proved to be a turning point in Su Shi’s spiritual development. He vowed to be more humble, and not a person who simply boasted of possessing virtue.
9 Jun 18, 11:59 AM
Julia: A5 part 2: One day, Su Shi had a powerful experience during meditation and immediately composed a verse:This poem appeared to praise the enlightened Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, but in fact it implied that he himself would no longer be affected by the eight worldly concerns, and had achieved spiritual realisation. Satisfied with himself and his work, he cheerfully asked his servant to send it to Master Foyin for his approval and validation. Upon reading the poem, the master gave a two-word remark and asked the servant to give it to Su Shi. Su Shi was confident that Master Foyin would offer some sort of praise for his work, and was anxious to receive his reply. When the servant returned, Su Shi saw that all Master Foyin wrote was, "BREAK WIND" Flushed with anger, Su Shi immediately took a boat across the river, ready for an argument. To his surprise, the master was waiting for him at the front gate of the temple. With little effort and a few strokes of his pen, Master Foyin showed Su Shi that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be. If he had overcome the eight worldly concerns, he would not have gotten angry at the words “break wind” and crossed the river just to confront the master. Ashamed but wiser, Su Shi departed quietly. This event proved to be a turning point in Su Shi’s spiritual development. He vowed to be more humble, and not a person who simply boasted of possessing virtue.9 Jun 18, 11:58 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Adeline 9 Jun 18, 11:58 AM
Pastor Adeline: 5. Master Foyin Liaoyuan was an eminent and renowned Chan master. In one the many famous records of their conversations, Su Shi realise that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be. One of them was the famous conversation about "break wind" (fart). Su Shi had a powerful experience during meditation and immediately composed a verse to be sent to the venerable master that looked like he was praising the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, but in fact it implied that he himself would no longer be affected by the eight worldly concerns, and had achieved spiritual realisation. Yet, he flushed with anger & immediately took a boat across the river, ready for an argument after receiving the reply from the master "Breakw wind". The master laughed at his so called realisation and said “Not blown by eight winds but blown across the river by a fart.” With little effort and a few strokes of his pen, Master Foyin showed Su Shi that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be. If he had overcome the eight worldly concerns, he would not have gotten angry at the words “break wind” and crossed the river just to confront the master.9 Jun 18, 11:58 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin and Joy9 Jun 18, 11:56 AM
Pastor Shin: A5. Foyin Liaoyuan was a renowned Chan Master whom Su Shi developed a close relationship with. The two left many famous records of their conversations, including detailed questions and answers relating to Chan Buddhism. Su Shi realised that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be in the incident when he received a negative remark from Foyin Liaoyuan for the poem he wrote. The poem appeared to praise the enlightened Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, but in fact it implied that he himself would no longer be affected by the eight worldly concerns. Foyin Liaoyuan's remark "“Break wind! (放屁)” angered Su Shi who immediately took a boat across the river, ready for an argument. Su Shi confronted Foyin Liaoyuan who then replied in writing with little effort and a few strokes of his pen, “Not blown by eight winds but blown across the river by a fart.”
八风吹不动
一屁弹过江
9 Jun 18, 11:56 AM
Joy: 5. Who was Foyin Liaoyuan? How did Su Shi realise that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be? - Foyin Liaoyuan is Chan Buddhist Master and teacher of Su Shi.
- One story/example is; Su Shi realise that he was not as spiritually advanced when his master showed him his anger and wrong view. He was ready to confront his master due to what the master wrote and the master with little effort and a few strokes of his pen, showed Su Shi that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be. If he had overcome the eight worldly concerns, he would not have gotten angry at the words “break wind” and crossed the river just to confront the master. Ashamed but wiser, Su Shi departed quietly. This event proved to be a turning point in Su Shi’s spiritual development. He vowed to be more humble, and not a person who simply boasted of possessing virtue.
9 Jun 18, 11:56 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Chris9 Jun 18, 11:56 AM
Chris Chong: A4: Su Shi was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend. This left Su Shi poverty stricken. It was during this period that he began practising Buddhist meditation.9 Jun 18, 11:56 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Antoinette - your answer is correct 9 Jun 18, 11:55 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Julia - but would you mind to share at which point Su Shi realised that he was not spiritually advanced?9 Jun 18, 11:54 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 5. Who was Foyin Liaoyuan? How did Su Shi realise that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be?Su Shi and Master Foyin Liaoyuan met during Su Shi's time in Huangzhou County. At that time he began reading the Buddhist classics voraciously.
It is mentionned that when Su Shi took office in Guazhou, above the Yangzi River, Master Foyin was based at the Gold Mountain Temple, on the opposite bank. Su Shi had a powerful experience during meditation one day and he immediately composed a verse. In fact, Su Shi thought that he himself had achieved spiritual realisation and very proud, he send the verse to his friend Foyin Liaoyuan. As a reply, he got the following message: “Break wind! (放屁)” This made Su Shi very angry and he confronted Master Foyin. Master Foyin showed Su Shi that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be. If he had overcome the eight worldly concerns, he would not have gotten angry at the words “break wind” and crossed the river just to confront the master.
9 Jun 18, 11:54 AM
Julia: A5: In 1079 CE, when Su Shi was in Huangzhou County, he began reading the Buddhist classics voraciously and developed a close relationship with the renowned Chan Master Foyin Liaoyuan. The two left many famous records of their conversations, including detailed questions and answers relating to Chan Buddhism. Below are some of these accounts.9 Jun 18, 11:49 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Julia and Victor9 Jun 18, 11:48 AM
Victor.C: A4. - Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE were hee was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend.
- This left Su Shi poverty stricken. It was during this period that he began practising Buddhist meditation.
9 Jun 18, 11:46 AM
Valentina_moderator: 5. Who was Foyin Liaoyuan? How did Su Shi realise that he was not as spiritually advanced as he claimed to be?9 Jun 18, 11:46 AM
Julia: A4: Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE. He was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend. This left Su Shi poverty stricken. It was during this period that he began practising Buddhist meditation. With help from a friend, Su Shi built a small residence on a parcel of land in 1081 CE, on a farm called Dongpo (‘Eastern Slope’). It was from the name of this farm that he adopted his literary pseudonym. He grew fond of the area that he had been banished to, and many of his best poems were written during this period. He also produced his most famous piece of calligraphy, “Han Shi Tie” (寒食帖) while at the small residence.9 Jun 18, 11:44 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Julia...9 Jun 18, 11:44 AM
Valentina_moderator: 4. During what period Su Shi began to practice Buddhism? How was his situation at the time?Su Shi started to practice Buddhism during his first political exile between 1080-1086 CE.
At the time, Su Shi was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work on a post which carried only a nominal title with no government stipend, which left him poverty stricken.
9 Jun 18, 11:44 AM
Julia: A3: When Su Shi became Governor of Xuzhou in 1078 CE, he wrote a memorial in which he highlighted the troubling economic situation in the Liguo Industrial Prefecture. This prefecture was extremely important for the Chinese iron industry, and was on the verge of becoming a hotbed for rebellion. he was also seen to be at odds with the political faction headed by Wang Anshi. Once, he wrote a poem that criticised Wang Anshi’s reforms, focusing on the government’s monopoly of the salt industry. The dominance of the reformist faction at court gave the New Policy Group the ability to deport Su Shi for his alleged political crimes. One of the claims they made was that Su Shi had criticised the emperor, when in fact his criticism targeted Wang’s reforms.9 Jun 18, 11:44 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Antoinette 9 Jun 18, 11:43 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Joy, Pastor Adeline, and Sofi 9 Jun 18, 11:43 AM
Pastor Adeline: A4. Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE. He was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend. This left Su Shi poverty stricken. It was during this period that he began practising Buddhist meditation. With help from a friend, Su Shi built a small residence on a parcel of land in 1081 CE, on a farm called Dongpo (‘Eastern Slope’). It was from the name of this farm that he adopted his literary pseudonym. He grew fond of the area that he had been banished to, and many of his best poems were written during this period. He also produced his most famous piece of calligraphy, “Han Shi Tie” (寒食帖) while at the small residence.9 Jun 18, 11:42 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 4. During what period Su Shi began to practice Buddhism? How was his situation at the time? A4. During the time of his first exile, Su Shi began practising Buddhist meditation. He was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work with only a nominal title and no government stipend. Because of this,Su Shi was poverty stricken. Su Shi built a small residence on a parcel of land in 1081 CE, on a farm called Dongpo (‘Eastern Slope’) with the help of a friend. It was from the name of this farm that he adopted his literary pseudonym. Many of his best poems were written during this period. He also produced his most famous piece of calligraphy, “Han Shi Tie” (寒食帖) while at the small residence.
9 Jun 18, 11:42 AM
Sofi: A4 : Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE. He was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend. This left Su Shi poverty stricken. It was during this period that he began practising Buddhist meditation. In 1079 CE, when Su Shi was in Huangzhou County, he began reading the Buddhist classics voraciously and developed a close relationship with the renowned Chan Master Foyin Liaoyuan. The two left many famous records of their conversations, including detailed questions and answers relating to Chan Buddhism. Below are some of these accounts.9 Jun 18, 11:40 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin 9 Jun 18, 11:40 AM
Joy: 4. During what period Su Shi began to practice Buddhism? How was his situation at the time? During 1079 CE, when Su Shi was in Huangzhou County, he began reading the Buddhist classics voraciously and developed a close relationship with the renowned Chan Master Foyin Liaoyuan. The two left many famous records of their conversations, including detailed questions and answers relating to Chan Buddhism.9 Jun 18, 11:39 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Antoinette 9 Jun 18, 11:39 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 3. What was the reason for Su Shi’s first political exile? A3.Su Shi went against the New Policy Party led by Wang Anshi (王安石), a notable Chinese economist, statesman, chancellor and poet. Su Shi wrote a poem that criticised Wang Anshi’s reforms, focusing on the government’s monopoly of the salt industry. The dominance of the reformist faction at court gave the New Policy Group the ability to deport Su Shi for his alleged political crimes. Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE. He was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend.9 Jun 18, 11:38 AM
Pastor Shin: A4. When Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE to Huangzhou in Hubei, he worked in a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend. This left Su Shi poverty stricken. It was during this period that he began practising Buddhist meditation. In 1079 CE, when Su Shi was in Huangzhou County, he began reading the Buddhist classics voraciously and developed a close relationship with the renowned Chan Master Foyin Liaoyuan. The two left many famous records of their conversations, including detailed questions and answers relating to Chan Buddhism.9 Jun 18, 11:38 AM
Victor.C: A3. - Su Shi seen to be at odds with the political faction headed by Wang Anshi and wrote a poem that criticised Wang Anshi’s reforms, focusing on the government’s monopoly of the salt industry.
- The dominance of the reformist faction at court gave the New Policy Group the ability to deport Su Shi for his alleged political crimes. One of the claims they made was that Su Shi had criticised the emperor, when in fact his criticism targeted Wang’s reforms. Wang Anshi himself played no part in the action against Su Shi.
9 Jun 18, 11:38 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 4. During what period Su Shi began to practice Buddhism? How was his situation at the time? A4. During the time of his first exile, Su Shi began practising Buddhist meditation.
9 Jun 18, 11:36 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Antoinette - but would you mind to share about the reason for Su Shi's first exile? -- Pastor Antoinette: More for A3: Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE. He was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend.9 Jun 18, 11:35 AM
Pastor Antoinette: More for A3: Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE. He was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend.9 Jun 18, 11:34 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Victor9 Jun 18, 11:34 AM
Pastor Antoinette: Thank you Pastor Adeline.9 Jun 18, 11:33 AM
Valentina_moderator: 4. During what period Su Shi began to practice Buddhism? How was his situation at the time?9 Jun 18, 11:33 AM
Victor.C: A2. - The Su brothers gained high honours for what were deemed impeccable answers and achieved celebrity status as a result. In Su Shi’s case, he repeated his exceptional performance in subsequent degree examinations in 1061 CE.
- In 1057 CE, during the Jinshi examinations, Ouyang Xiu required the candidates to answer questions on the Confucian classics in prose according to an ancient style not frequently used. He did this without prior notice to determine how educated the candidates were.
9 Jun 18, 11:33 AM
Valentina_moderator: Next question...9 Jun 18, 11:33 AM
Valentina_moderator: 3. What was the reason for Su Shi’s first political exile?The reason for Su Shi’s first political exile was because he was seen to be at odds with the political faction headed by Wang Anshi, a notable Chinese economist, statesman, chancellor and poet. Su Shi wrote a poem that criticized Wang Anshi’s economic reform. The dominance of the reformist faction at court gave the New Policy Group the ability to deport Su Shi for his alleged political crimes. One of the claims they made was that Su Shi had criticized the emperor, when in fact his criticism targeted Wang’s reforms.
9 Jun 18, 11:33 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Antoinette and Joy 9 Jun 18, 11:33 AM
Joy: 3. What was the reason for Su Shi’s first political exile?Su Shi was also seen to be at odds with the political faction headed by Wang Anshi. He wrote a poem that criticised Wang Anshi’s reforms, focusing on the government’s monopoly of the salt industry. The dominance of the reformist faction at court gave the New Policy Group the ability to deport Su Shi for his alleged political crimes. They claim that Su Shi had criticised the emperor, when in fact his criticism targeted Wang’s reforms.
9 Jun 18, 11:32 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 3. What was the reason for Su Shi’s first political exile? A3.Su Shi went against the New Policy Party led by Wang Anshi (王安石), a notable Chinese economist, statesman, chancellor and poet. Su Shi wrote a poem that criticised Wang Anshi’s reforms, focusing on the government’s monopoly of the salt industry. The dominance of the reformist faction at court gave the New Policy Group the ability to deport Su Shi for his alleged political crimes.
9 Jun 18, 11:32 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Adeline, Chris and Sofi9 Jun 18, 11:32 AM
Sofi: A3 : Su Shi seen to be at odds with the political faction headed by Wang Anshi and wrote a poem that criticised Wang Anshi’s reforms, focusing on the government’s monopoly of the salt industry. The dominance of the reformist faction at court gave the New Policy Group the ability to deport Su Shi for his alleged political crimes. One of the claims they made was that Su Shi had criticised the emperor, when in fact his criticism targeted Wang’s reforms. Wang Anshi himself played no part in the action against Su Shi; in fact he had retired from public life in 1076 CE. Before this event occurred, Wang Anshi had even established a cordial relationship with Su Shi.9 Jun 18, 11:32 AM
Chris Chong: A3 : Su Shi was also seen to be at odds with the political faction headed by Wang Anshi. Once, he wrote a poem that criticised Wang Anshi’s reforms, focusing on the government’s monopoly of the salt industry. The dominance of the reformist faction at court gave the New Policy Group the ability to deport Su Shi for his alleged political crimes. One of the claims they made was that Su Shi had criticised the emperor, when in fact his criticism targeted Wang’s reforms. Wang Anshi himself played no part in the action against Su Shi; in fact he had retired from public life in 1076 CE. Before this event occurred, Wang Anshi had even established a cordial relationship with Su Shi. Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE.9 Jun 18, 11:31 AM
Pastor Adeline: A3. Su Shi wrote a poem that criticised Wang Anshi’s reforms, focusing on the government’s monopoly of the salt industry. The dominance of the reformist faction at court gave the New Policy Group the ability to deport Su Shi for his alleged political crimes. Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE. He was sent to Huangzhou in Hubei to work a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend. This left Su Shi poverty stricken. It was during this period that he began practising Buddhist meditation.9 Jun 18, 11:31 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Victor for your very organized answer 9 Jun 18, 11:31 AM
Valentina_moderator: Hello Victor - thank you for joining us this morning9 Jun 18, 11:31 AM
Victor.C: A1. - Su Shi (苏轼), also known as Su Dongpo (苏东坡), lived from 8th January 1037 to 24th August 1101.
- He was a prominent figure in the Song Dynasty (960-1279 CE) as well as a poet, calligrapher, writer, painter, gastronome, pharmacologist, and statesman.
- His father Su Xun (苏洵) gave him the name Shi (轼) after an ornate armrest usually fixed on the front section of Chinese carriages, as a reminder to the boy to pay heed to how he appeared in public.
9 Jun 18, 11:31 AM
Chris Chong: A2 : In 1057 CE, during the Jinshi examinations, Ouyang Xiu required the candidates to answer questions on the Confucian classics in prose according to an ancient style not frequently used. He did this without prior notice to determine how educated the candidates were. The Su brothers gained high honours for what were deemed impeccable answers and achieved celebrity status as a result. In Su Shi’s case, he repeated his exceptional performance in subsequent degree examinations in 1061 CE.9 Jun 18, 11:30 AM
Victor.C: Hello everyone!9 Jun 18, 11:30 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Sofi9 Jun 18, 11:29 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin - your answer to question no. 3 is correct.9 Jun 18, 11:29 AM
Sofi: A2 : In 1057 CE, during the Jinshi examinations, Ouyang Xiu required the candidates to answer questions on the Confucian classics in prose according to an ancient style not frequently used. He did this without prior notice to determine how educated the candidates were. The Su brothers gained high honours for what were deemed impeccable answers and achieved celebrity status as a result. In Su Shi’s case, he repeated his exceptional performance in subsequent degree examinations in 1061 CE.9 Jun 18, 11:29 AM
Pastor Shin: A3. Su Shi was first exiled between 1080-1086 CE to Huangzhou in Hubei to work a post which carried only a nominal title and no government stipend. He was exiled because was at odds with the political faction headed by Wang Anshi. He wrote a poem that criticised Wang Anshi’s reforms, focusing on the government’s monopoly of the salt industry. The dominance of the reformist faction at court gave the New Policy Group the ability to deport Su Shi for his alleged political crimes. One of the claims they made was that Su Shi had criticised the emperor, when in fact his criticism targeted Wang’s reforms.9 Jun 18, 11:27 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Sofi and Chris for your correct answer to question no. 19 Jun 18, 11:26 AM
Chris Chong: A1 : Su Shi (苏轼), also known as Su Dongpo (苏东坡), lived from 8th January 1037 to 24th August 1101. He was a prominent figure in the Song Dynasty (960-1279 CE) as well as a poet, calligrapher, writer, painter, gastronome, pharmacologist, and statesman. His father Su Xun (苏洵) gave him the name Shi (轼) after an ornate armrest usually fixed on the front section of Chinese carriages, as a reminder to the boy to pay heed to how he appeared in public.9 Jun 18, 11:26 AM
Sofi: A1 : Su Shi (苏轼), also known as Su Dongpo (苏东坡), lived from 8th January 1037 to 24th August 1101. He was a prominent figure in the Song Dynasty (960-1279 CE) as well as a poet, calligrapher, writer, painter, gastronome, pharmacologist, and statesman. His father Su Xun (苏洵) gave him the name Shi (轼) after an ornate armrest usually fixed on the front section of Chinese carriages, as a reminder to the boy to pay heed to how he appeared in public.9 Jun 18, 11:26 AM
Valentina_moderator: Good morning Chris 9 Jun 18, 11:26 AM
Chris Chong: Good morning Rinpoche and everyone.9 Jun 18, 11:26 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 2. How did Su Shi and his brother gain high academic honours and celebrity status? A2.The Su brothers gained high honours for what were deemed impeccable answers in 1057 CE, for the Jinshi examinations, Ouyang Xiu. The candidates needed to answer questions on the Confucian classics in prose according to an ancient style not frequently used and achieved celebrity status because of their impeccable answers. In Su Shi’s case, he repeated his exceptional performance in subsequent degree examinations in 1061 CE.
9 Jun 18, 11:25 AM
Valentina_moderator: Good morning Sofi - nice to chat with you today9 Jun 18, 11:25 AM
Sofi: Good morning Rinpoche, Valentina and everyone9 Jun 18, 11:25 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin 9 Jun 18, 11:25 AM
Pastor Shin: A2. In 1057 CE, during the Jinshi examinations, Ouyang Xiu required the candidates to answer questions on the Confucian classics in prose according to an ancient style not frequently used. He did this without prior notice to determine how educated the candidates were. The Su brothers, Su Shi and his younger brother, Su Zhe gained high honours for what were deemed impeccable answers and achieved celebrity status as a result.9 Jun 18, 11:25 AM
Valentina_moderator: 3. What was the reason for Su Shi’s first political exile?9 Jun 18, 11:24 AM
Valentina_moderator: Next question...9 Jun 18, 11:24 AM
Valentina_moderator: 2. How did Su Shi and his brother gain high academic honours and celebrity status?Su Shi and his brother gained high academic honour and celebrity status after being able to answer questions on the Confucian classics in prose according to an ancient style impeccably.
In 1057 CE, during the Jinshi examinations to get the Jinshi degree which is a pre-requisite to obtaining a position in a high government office, Ouyang Xiu, an influential statesman, required the candidates to answer questions on the Confucian classics in prose according to an ancient style not frequently used. He did this without prior notice to determine how educated the candidates were.
9 Jun 18, 11:24 AM
Valentina_moderator: Dear Pastor Shin - what was special about the examination that year that caused Su Shi and his brother able to gain high donors? - Re question no. 29 Jun 18, 11:23 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Antoinette - your answer to question no. 1 is correct. Thank you Pastor Adeline for your answer no. 29 Jun 18, 11:22 AM
Pastor Shin: A2. The Su brothers, Su Shi and his younger brother,Su Zhe gained high honours for what were deemed impeccable answers during the Jinshi examinations in 1057CE, and they achieved celebrity status as a result.9 Jun 18, 11:22 AM
Pastor Adeline: Good morning Julia and Pastor Antoinette. Nice to have you here this morning.9 Jun 18, 11:22 AM
Pastor Antoinette: Thank you Valentina9 Jun 18, 11:22 AM
Pastor Adeline: A2. In 1057 CE, during the Jinshi examinations, Ouyang Xiu required the candidates to answer questions on the Confucian classics in prose according to an ancient style not frequently used. He did this without prior notice to determine how educated the candidates were. The Su brothers gained high honours for what were deemed impeccable answers and achieved celebrity status as a result. In Su Shi’s case, he repeated his exceptional performance in subsequent degree examinations in 1061 CE.9 Jun 18, 11:22 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 1. Who was Su Shi also known as Su Dongpo? Why did his father give him the name, Shi? Ans: Su Shi a prominent figure in the Song Dynasty (960-1279 CE) as well as a poet, calligrapher, writer, painter, gastronome, pharmacologist, and statesman. His name is chosen after an ornate armrest usually fixed on the front section of Chinese carriages, as a reminder to the boy to pay heed to how he appeared in public.9 Jun 18, 11:21 AM
Julia: Good morning Rinpoche, Valentina, Joy and Pastor Adeline...9 Jun 18, 11:21 AM
Valentina_moderator: Your answer to question no. 2 are correct - Thank you Julia and Joy9 Jun 18, 11:20 AM
Julia: Thanks Valentina 9 Jun 18, 11:20 AM
Joy: 2. How did Su Shi and his brother gain high academic honours and celebrity status?In 1057 CE, during the Jinshi examinations, Ouyang Xiu required the candidates to answer questions on the Confucian classics in prose according to an ancient style not frequently used. He did this without prior notice to determine how educated the candidates were. The Su brothers gained high honours for what were deemed impeccable answers and achieved celebrity status as a result. In Su Shi’s case, he repeated his exceptional performance in subsequent degree examinations in 1061 CE.
9 Jun 18, 11:19 AM
Julia: A2. In 1057 CE, during the Jinshi examinations, Ouyang Xiu required the candidates to answer questions on the Confucian classics in prose according to an ancient style not frequently used. He did this without prior notice to determine how educated the candidates were. The Su brothers gained high honours for what were deemed impeccable answers and achieved celebrity status as a result. In Su Shi’s case, he repeated his exceptional performance in subsequent degree examinations in 1061 CE.9 Jun 18, 11:19 AM
Valentina_moderator: Good morning Pastor Antoinette - nice to see you in the chatroom today9 Jun 18, 11:18 AM
Pastor Antoinette: Good morning Rinpoche, good morning Valentina and everyone9 Jun 18, 11:18 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Julia - your answer for question number 1 is correct9 Jun 18, 11:18 AM
Julia: A1. He was a prominent figure in the Song Dynasty (960-1279 CE) as well as a poet, calligrapher, writer, painter, gastronome, pharmacologist, and statesman. His father Su Xun (苏洵) gave him the name Shi (轼) after an ornate armrest usually fixed on the front section of Chinese carriages, as a reminder to the boy to pay heed to how he appeared in public.9 Jun 18, 11:12 AM
Valentina_moderator: 2. How did Su Shi and his brother gain high academic honours and celebrity status?9 Jun 18, 11:11 AM
Valentina_moderator: Next question...9 Jun 18, 11:11 AM
Valentina_moderator: 1. Who was Su Shi, also known as Su Dongpo? Why did his father give him the name, Shi?Su Shi (苏轼), also known as Su Dongpo (苏东坡), was a prominent figure in the Song Dynasty. He was a poet, calligrapher, writer, painter, gastronome, pharmacologist and a statesman.
Su Shi’s father gave him the name Shi (轼) which means an ornate armrest usually fixed on the front section of Chinese carriages, as a reminder to Su Shi to pay heed as to how he appeared in public.
9 Jun 18, 11:11 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin for the correct answer9 Jun 18, 11:10 AM
Pastor Shin: A1. Su Shi (苏轼), also known as Su Dongpo (苏东坡), lived from 8th January 1037 to 24th August 1101. He was a prominent figure in the Song Dynasty (960-1279 CE) as well as a poet, calligrapher, writer, painter, gastronome, pharmacologist, and statesman. His father Su Xun (苏洵) gave him the name Shi (轼) after an ornate armrest usually fixed on the front section of Chinese carriages, as a reminder to the boy to pay heed to how he appeared in public.9 Jun 18, 11:09 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Joy9 Jun 18, 11:09 AM
Joy: 1. Who was Su Shi also known as Su Dongpo? Why did his father give him the name, Shi?Su Shi was a prominent figure in the Song Dynasty. He was a poet, calligrapher, writer, painter, gastronome, pharmacologist, and statesman. His father Su Xun gave him the name Shi after an ornate armrest usually fixed on the front section of Chinese carriages, as a reminder to the boy to pay heed to how he appeared in public.
9 Jun 18, 11:07 AM
Valentina_moderator: Thank you Pastor Adeline, your answer is complete and accurate9 Jun 18, 11:05 AM
Pastor Adeline: A1. Su Shi, aka Su Dongpo, was a prominent figure in the Song Dynasty (960-1279 CE) as well as a poet, calligrapher, writer, painter, gastronome, pharmacologist, and statesman. His father Su Xun (苏洵) gave him the name Shi (轼) after an ornate armrest usually fixed on the front section of Chinese carriages, as a reminder to the boy to pay heed to how he appeared in public.9 Jun 18, 11:03 AM
Valentina_moderator: 1. Who was Su Shi also known as Su Dongpo? Why did his father give him the name, Shi?9 Jun 18, 11:03 AM
Valentina_moderator: Ok first question...9 Jun 18, 11:03 AM
Valentina_moderator: Good morning Pastor Adeline9 Jun 18, 11:03 AM
Pastor Adeline: Good morning everyone!9 Jun 18, 11:01 AM
Valentina_moderator: Let's wait for two more minutes9 Jun 18, 10:50 AM
Valentina_moderator: Looking forward to chatting with you…Today’s blog chat topic is
Su Shi: The Song Dynasty Poet and Chan Buddhism Enthusiast
See you!! http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/books-poetry/su-shi-the-song-dynasty-poet-and-chan-buddhism-enthusiast.html
8 Jun 18, 03:01 PM
jerry_sito: Long Life Prayer for H.E.The 25th Tsem Rinpoche's 尊贵的第廿五世詹杜固仁波切长寿祈愿文 👉 http://bit.ly/1coXDRs 🐘🐘 OM AH GURU KIRTI DAZA SHASANA DARA KYANDI SIDDHI HUNG HUNG https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De00fyaU8AE1pvP.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De00hWNUwAABjMw.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De00if3UYAAbJO8.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De00jpnVMAEJBIB.jpg8 Jun 18, 03:00 PM
jerry_sito: Praise to Kache Marpo Mantra : OM SHRI DHARMAPALA HUM PHET #ReadMore 👉 http://bit.ly/21n5lzR 🚀 This praise to Kache Marpo is extracted from a ritual composed by His Holiness the Great Fifth Dalai Lama, who composed it at the request of Kache Marpo himself so that practitioners may connect with him to receive swift assistance. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfJnd6gU8AAyCmp.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfJnd0oUwAEkiy0.jpg8 Jun 18, 02:59 PM
jerry_sito: When we desire things that will end, then we create the causes for unhappiness, denial and deepest regrets. ~ H.E. The 25th Tsem Rinpoche #ReadMore 👉 http://bit.ly/IGoGch ✍ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfJorXMV4AE3gqG.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfJorXKUcAENfI_.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfJorWEUYAAshqM.jpg
8 Jun 18, 11:47 AM
Tsem Rinpoche: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/chat-pictures/chat-9d2ibagxl5163.jpg NEW! The Promise – Tsem Rinpoche’s inspiring biography now in ebook format!- https://bit.ly/2sPGFpJ8 Jun 18, 09:22 AM
Tsem Rinpoche: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/chat-pictures/chat-9d2iaz12a7131.jpg Drashi Lhamo: The Protectress with the Rolled Out Tongue- http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=1623078 Jun 18, 03:43 AM
Tsem Rinpoche: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/chat-pictures/chat-9d2iaqs5l1145.jpg Left is Dorje Drolo, centre is Guru Rinpoche, right is Dorje Shugden. Beautiful thangka!8 Jun 18, 12:16 AM
Tsem Rinpoche: Dorje Shugden being a Buddha only manifest as a wordly protector. But his nature is pure Manjushri. Therefore, any sect, any persons asking him to help or assist, Dorje Shugden will definitely do so. To say he is only for helping Gelugs is wrong. It is like saying Guru Rinpoche will only bless Nyingma students. That is wrong. His Holiness the 4th Zhabdrung Jigme Norbu of the Drukpa Kagyu sect in Bhutan composed texts to Dorje Shugden for pujas and prayers. He wrote in his prayers to Dorje Shugden to protect Guru Rinpoche’s teachings. Of course Dorje Shugden will agree. -Karma Lungtok Please read more here and see more beautiful paintings: https://bit.ly/2LrPSMM http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/chat-pictures/chat-9d2iambl57220.jpg7 Jun 18, 11:20 PM
Tsem Rinpoche: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/wp-content/gallery/chat-pictures/chat-9d2i1zy2h5656.jpg Bodhgaya Tara which is suppose to have spoken to Atisha.7 Jun 18, 11:10 PM
Celeste: Good night Rinpoche and everyone at chatroom.7 Jun 18, 11:10 PM
Cc: Thank you Rinpoche and everyone🙏🙏🙏7 Jun 18, 11:10 PM
Callista: Good night and thanks Rinpoche,PHN, Choong and everyone7 Jun 18, 11:09 PM
Cc: A9.Burcha and his Dharma friend pray to Dorje Shugden with the wish to understand the Lamrim and Lojong teachings ,to gain attainments, have mind transformation and towards enlightened.7 Jun 18, 11:07 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): Good night Rinpoche and everyone .7 Jun 18, 11:07 PM
Jacinta Goh: Good night to all... Thank you Rinpoche 🙏7 Jun 18, 11:07 PM
CarynW: Thank you Rinpoche, Pastor, Choong and all. Good night.7 Jun 18, 11:06 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): Thank you Rinpoche, Pastor, Choong and everyone. Good night.7 Jun 18, 11:06 PM
Jacinta Goh: Thank you Moderator Choong7 Jun 18, 11:06 PM
Lum Kok Luen: Thank you Rinpoche and all in room. Good night.7 Jun 18, 11:05 PM
Choong_Moderator: I think that's where we will end tonight. Please do your dedications and thank you everyone for joining.7 Jun 18, 11:05 PM
Choong_Moderator: Thank you for joining Kin Hoe. Good night and see you again7 Jun 18, 11:04 PM
Callista: Night night Kin Hoe7 Jun 18, 11:04 PM
Celeste: A9. They did Dorje Shugden practice with the wish that they may be able to understand the Lamrim and Lojong teachings, to gain attainments, to understand the Buddha’s messages in Lamrim and to transform their minds and to become a patient, kind, and compassionate person. And ultimately is to get enlightened.7 Jun 18, 11:04 PM
Elaine: A9. The objective they prayed to Dorje Shugden was to ultimately get enlightened for the sake of all sentient beings.7 Jun 18, 11:04 PM
Callista: Looking*Lojong7 Jun 18, 11:03 PM
Jacinta Goh: Good night Kin Hoe7 Jun 18, 11:03 PM
Callista: A9: They did DS practice to understand the Lamrim and Looking teachings very well, to gain attainments, to understand the Buddha's messages in Lamrim and to transform their minds and become patience, kind and compassion. Ultimately become Enlightened7 Jun 18, 11:03 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): Sorry as i have to leave the chat room for now. Thank you Rinpoche, Choong and all for sharing the teachings of true Guru Devotion based on Rinpoche's past examples. Good night.7 Jun 18, 11:03 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A9: Both Burcha and his Dharma friend pray to DS to understand the Lamrim and Lojong (Mind Transformation) teachings well and deep, to gain higher attainments, to understand and apply Buddha's teachings within the Lamrim, to seek mind transformation, to attain bodhicitta and eventually become Enlightened.7 Jun 18, 11:03 PM
CarynW: A9: With the wish to understand the Lamrim and Lojong teachings very well, to gain attainments, to understand the Buddha’s messages in Lamrim and to transform their minds and to become a patient, kind, and compassionate person. In other words, to get enlightened.7 Jun 18, 11:03 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): A8 :Sogtae is when the Lama introduces you to Dorje Shugden, in a symbolic way, join hands with Dorje Shugden, and Dorje Shugden gives you his heart and gives you his blessings and gives you his commitment to protect you. You give back to Dorje Shugden that you will hold him as your principal Dharma Protector until you achieve Bodhicitta.7 Jun 18, 11:02 PM
Jacinta Goh: A9: The main reason is to gain attainments and be enlightened through the help of Dharma Protector. Dharma Protector can bestow blessings where they could understand Lamrim, Lojong, practice Dharma etc7 Jun 18, 11:01 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A9: Burcha and his Dharma friend pray to Dorje Shugden with the wish that they may be able to understand the Lamrim and Lojong teachings very well, to gain attainments, to understand the Buddha’s messages in Lamrim and to transform their minds and to become a patient, kind, and compassionate person. In other words, to get enlightened.7 Jun 18, 11:00 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A9: Burcha and his Dharma friend prayed to Dorje Shugden with the wish and motivation to understand Lamrim and Lojong teachings very well, to gain attainments, to understand Buddha's messages in Lamrim and to transform the mind and to become a patient, kind and compassionate person. In short, ultimately to gain enlightenment.7 Jun 18, 10:59 PM
Callista: A8: Sogtae is introduce by the Lama in a symbolic way, join hands with DS and DS gives his heart and give you his blessings and his commitment to protect you. In return to DS you will hold him as principal Dharma Protector untill you achieve Bodhicitta7 Jun 18, 10:58 PM
Cc: A8.Sogtae is when the Lama introduces you to Dorje Shugden, in a symbolic way, join hands with Dorje Shugden, and Dorje Shugden gives you his heart and gives you his blessings and gives you his commitment to protect you. You give back to Dorje Shugden that you will hold him as your principal Dharma Protector until you achieve Bodhicitta.7 Jun 18, 10:58 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q9. Why did Burcha and his Dharma friend pray to Dorje Shugden? 7 Jun 18, 10:57 PM
Cc: A7.One day when Burcha felt that he should choose between Palden Lhamo and Dorje Shugden and he only wanted to practice one Dharma Protector. Hence, Burcha asked Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Kyabje Zong Rinpoche will give him Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's Dharma Protector if he wanted. With folded hands, Burcha requested for Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's Dharma Protector and Kyabje Zong Rinpoche gave Dorje Shugden sogtae at Thubten Dargye Ling within one month.7 Jun 18, 10:57 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A8: Sogtae means when our Lama introduces Dorje Shugden to us, in a symbolic way, join hands with Dorje Shugden and Dorje Shugden gives us His heart, grants us His blessings and gives us His commitment to protect us. We will give back our commitment to Dorje Shugden that we will hold Dorje Shugden as our principal Dharma Protector until we can achieve Bodhicitta (pure compassion)7 Jun 18, 10:57 PM
Elaine: A8. A Sogtae is when the Lama introduces you to Dorje Shugden symbolicly and Dorje Shugden gives you his heart, blessings and gives you his commitment to protect you. You give back to Dorje Shugden that you will hold him as your principal Dharma Protector until you achieve Bodhicitta.7 Jun 18, 10:56 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A8: A sogtae is when one's Lama introduces a Protector to a student, the Protector joins hands with the disciple and the bond created will be there until the student achieved Liberation. When one is given a sogtae, there are commitments that the student cannot fail to perform. This is to ensure that the bond is intact.7 Jun 18, 10:55 PM
Jacinta Goh: I think Grace Leu has answered this in advance 😅 A8: Sogtae literally means life entrustment. It is when the Lama introduces you to Dorje Shugden, in a symbolic way, join hands with Dorje Shugden, and Dorje Shugden gives you his heart and gives you his blessings and gives you his commitment to protect you. You give back to Dorje Shugden that you will hold him as your principal Dharma Protector until you achieve Bodhicitta. Kyabje Zong Rinpo7 Jun 18, 10:55 PM
CarynW: A8: Sogtae is when the Lama introduces you to Dorje Shugden, in a symbolic way, join hands with Dorje Shugden, and Dorje Shugden gives you his heart and gives you his blessings and gives you his commitment to protect you. You give back to Dorje Shugden that you will hold him as your principal Dharma Protector until you achieve Bodhicitta.7 Jun 18, 10:54 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A8: Sogtae is when the Lama introduces you to Dorje Shugden, in a symbolic way, join hands with Dorje Shugden, and Dorje Shugden gives you his heart and gives you his blessings and gives you his commitment to protect you. You give back to Dorje Shugden that you will hold him as your principal Dharma Protector until you achieve Bodhicitta.7 Jun 18, 10:54 PM
Celeste: A8. Sogtae is when the Lama introduces you to Dorje Shugden, in a symbolic way, join hands with Dorje Shugden, and Dorje Shugden gives you his heart and gives you his blessings and gives you his commitment to protect you. You give back to Dorje Shugden that you will hold him as your principal Dharma Protector until you achieve Bodhicitta.7 Jun 18, 10:53 PM
Jacinta Goh: Thanks Moderator. The conversation posted will make it easier for us to understand and memorise7 Jun 18, 10:53 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q8. What is sogtae? 7 Jun 18, 10:51 PM
Choong_Moderator: Burcha: I’m practising two Dharma Protectors now [Palden Lhamo and Dorje Shugden]. Can you please give me your advice which Dharma Protector I should choose for the rest of my life to remove obstacles of my Dharma practice? Zong Rinpoche: If you want, I will give you my Dharma Protector.
Burcha : [Folded his hands] Please give me your Dharma Protector. If it’s good enough for you, and that’s what you practice your whole life and you’re a Buddha, it’s more than good enough for me.
7 Jun 18, 10:51 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A7:One day, Burcha felt that he should choose between Palden Lhamo and Dorje Shugden, and he only wanted to practice one protector. So he aseek Zong Rinpoche's advice. Zong Rinpoche adviced that if Burcha want, Zong Rinpoche will give him his dharma protector. Burcha accepted. Within one month, Zong Rinpoche gave Dorje Shugden sogtae/ initiation at TDL.7 Jun 18, 10:51 PM
CarynW: A7: Burcha asked Zong Rinpoche which Dharma protector between Palden Lhamo and Dorje Shugden that he should choose as Burcha only wanted to practice one protector. Zong Rinpoche advised that he would give his Dharma protector to Burcha if he wanted it. Burcha immediately accepted and within one month, Zong Rinpoche gave Dorje Shugden sogtae/initiation to Burcha.7 Jun 18, 10:50 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): A7 : Zong Rinpoche gave Dorje Shugden sogtae/ initiation at TDL. Sogtae is when the Lama introduces you to Dorje Shugden, in a symbolic way, join hands with Dorje Shugden, and Dorje Shugden gives you his heart and gives you his blessings and gives you his commitment to protect you. You give back to Dorje Shugden that you will hold him as your principal Dharma Protector until you achieve Bodhicitta.7 Jun 18, 10:49 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A7: Burcha asked Zong Rinpoche which protector he should choose - Palden Lhamo or DS. Zong Rinpoche answered that he could give Burcha his protector - DS> Burhca immediately accepted DS. Within one month, Zong Rinpoche gave the initiation to Burcha.7 Jun 18, 10:49 PM
Jacinta Goh: A7: Rinpoche was given Dorje Shugden sogtae when Kyabje Zong Rinpoche decided to give the DS sogtae and imitation at Thubten Dhargye Ling. Previously, Burcha did ask about his problem having to practice two Dharma Protectors which were Palden Hlamo and Dorje Shugden. Dharma Protector practice was needed to remove obstacles in His Life. Hence, at that time Kyabje Zong Rinpoche said that He will give Him His Protector practice which was Dorje Shugden7 Jun 18, 10:48 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A7: There was one day when Burcha felt that he should choose between Palden Lhamo and Dorje Shugden and he only wanted to practice one Dharma Protector. Hence, Burcha asked Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Kyabje Zong Rinpoche will give him Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's Dharma Protector if he wanted. With folded hands, Burcha requested for Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's Dharma Protector and Kyabje Zong Rinpoche gave Dorje Shugden sogtae at Thubten Dargye Ling within one month.7 Jun 18, 10:47 PM
Callista: A7: He want to choose between Palden Lhamo and DS, and he only wanted to practice one. Zong Rinpoche have introduce his Dharma protector and gave him sogtae within a month7 Jun 18, 10:44 PM
Callista: A6: based on Indian tantric manual, this is to show the deepest respect to someone very high7 Jun 18, 10:44 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q7. Tell us how Rinpoche came to receive Dorje Shugden sogtae from Zong Rinpoche. 7 Jun 18, 10:42 PM
Celeste: A6. Burcha would kiss Zong Rinpoche's feet because he read in an Indian tantric manual that to show the deepest respect to someone very high is to touch the lowest part of the body.7 Jun 18, 10:42 PM
Callista: A5:Burcha will wash his cups and plates and placed them at the highest shelf in the kitchen without damaging anything.Sometime he would even wash twice times7 Jun 18, 10:41 PM
Cc: A6.Burcha read an Indian tantric manual that to show the deepest respect to someone very high, is to touch the lowest part of his body.7 Jun 18, 10:41 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A6: Burcha would kiss Zong Rinpoche's feet because he read in an Indian tantric manual that to show the deepest respect to someone very high is to touch the lowest part of [his] body.7 Jun 18, 10:40 PM
Jacinta Goh: This kind of culture still exist till today (Indian culture)7 Jun 18, 10:39 PM
Callista: A4: for the past 6 months Burcha tirelessly served Zong Rinpoche devotedly and diligently. After he served Zong Rinpoche, he will served Gesha la. If Gesha La did not need anything else, he would serve Zong Rinpoche's entourage7 Jun 18, 10:39 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A5: Burcha would wash Zong Rinpcohe's cups and his plates first, clean them and put them in the highest shelf in the kitchen, without damaging anything. Sometimes, Burcha would wash his silverware twice. Burcha would put everything away in a special place so no one could touch his items. He even put up a sign in case anybody made a mistake. This was an opportunity for Burcha to serve his teacher.7 Jun 18, 10:39 PM
CarynW: A6: Burcha read in an Indian tantric manual that to show the deepest respect to someone very high is to touch the lowest part of [his] body.7 Jun 18, 10:39 PM
Elaine: A6. Burcha read in an Indian tantric manual that touching the lowest part of the body of someone very high is to the deepest respect.7 Jun 18, 10:39 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A6: Burcha would massage and kiss Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's feet because Burcha read an Indian tantric manual that to show the deepest respect to someone very high, is to touch the lowest part of his body.7 Jun 18, 10:38 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): A6 :I would kiss his feet because I read in an Indian tantric manual that to show the deepest respect to someone very high is to touch the lowest part of [his] body.It was my way to show my reverence to him because I could not speak his language.7 Jun 18, 10:38 PM
Cc: A5. Burcha would wash Zong Rinpoche 's cups and plates first, clean them and put them in the highest shelf in the kitchen, without damaging anything and sometimes, he would wash his silverware twice. He would segregrate everything in a special place so no one could touch his item. Burcha even put up a sign incase anybody made a mistake.7 Jun 18, 10:37 PM
Jacinta Goh: A6: In Indian tantric manual, it is said that to show the deepest respect to someone very high is to touch the lowest part of his body.7 Jun 18, 10:36 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q6. Why would Burcha kiss Zong Rinpoche’s feet? 7 Jun 18, 10:36 PM
CarynW: A5: Burcha treated the plateware with special and extra care. He would wash them, clean them and place them in the highest shelf with a sign that the plateware belongs to Zong Rinpoche so that no one could access them easily or wrongly used them.7 Jun 18, 10:36 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A5: Burcha treated the plateware that was meant for Kyabje Zong Rinpoche with highest respect and well taken care. Burcha would wash His cups and plates first, clean them and place them at the highest shelf in the kitchen. There were times when Burcha would wash His silverware twice. Burcha would put everything away in a special place so that no one could touch His items, even a sign was put up in case of anyone mistakenly using Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's silverware.7 Jun 18, 10:35 PM
Celeste: A5. Burcha would wash Zong Rinpoche's cups and his plates first, clean them and put them in the highest shelf in the kitchen, without damaging anything. Sometimes, Burcha would wash his silverware twice. Burcha would put everything away in a special place so no one could touch his items. Burcha even put up a sign in case anybody made a mistake. Burcha see this was an opportunity to serve his teacher.”7 Jun 18, 10:35 PM
Cc: A4.Burcha served Zong Rinpoche and Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen.Burcha also serve Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's entourage.7 Jun 18, 10:34 PM
Jacinta Goh: A5: Burcha treated Kyabje Zong Rinpoche’s platewares with great care. He would sometime washing it twice and put them in highest self. He also put a sign for it.7 Jun 18, 10:33 PM
Elaine: A5. Burcha would wash Zong Rinpoche's crockery with utmost care, diligently washing them clean and storing them at a top shelf with a sign saying it is reserved for Rinpoche.7 Jun 18, 10:33 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): A5 :Burcha would wash Zong Rinpoche 's cups and plates first, clean them and put them in the highest shelf in the kitchen, without damaging anything. Sometimes, he would wash his silverware twice. Hevwould put everything away in a special place so no one could touch his items. He even put up a sign in case anybody made a mistake7 Jun 18, 10:31 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): A4 :Everyday for the next six months, he devotedly and diligently served Zong Rinpoche tirelessly. After he served Zong Rinpoche, he served Geshe La . Burcha will prepare breakfast , dinner for them. Burcha also will clean everthing and make sure in order . He also will massage Zong Rinpoche's feet7 Jun 18, 10:31 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q5. How did Burcha treat the plateware that was meant for Zong Rinpoche? 7 Jun 18, 10:30 PM
Cc: A3.Burcha was elected to be Zong Rinpoche's assistant and there were objections frim some center members with his funky appearance and red hair.7 Jun 18, 10:29 PM
CarynW: A4: Burcha served both Zong Rinpoche and Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen devotedly, diligently and tirelessly. He also served Zong Rinpoche and Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen's entourage.7 Jun 18, 10:28 PM
Jacinta Goh: A4: Burcha served both Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen with great devotion, very diligent and serving them tirelessly. Burcha prepared their breakfast and dinner, always clean the work space well and always at the side of Kyabje Zong Rinpoche7 Jun 18, 10:28 PM
Celeste: A4.In the morning, after Zong Rinpoche finished his breakfast, Burcha would clear his breakfast tray, then proceed to Geshe La’s and the entourage’s trays. If he had time, he would also clean up the kitchen and put everything away before going to work.7 Jun 18, 10:28 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): A3 :Burcha was elected as Zong Rinpoche’s assistant during his visit despite the objection of some center members.7 Jun 18, 10:27 PM
Elaine: A4. Burcha served Zong Rinpoche with full devotion for the next 6 months taking care of his every need and after serving Geshe La and the rest of the entourage, he would stay by his Root Guru's side.7 Jun 18, 10:27 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A4: Burcha determined to serve Zong Rinpoche well. Everyday for the next six months, he devotedly and diligently served Zong Rinpoche tirelessly. After he served Zong Rinpoche, he served Geshe La. If Geshe La did not need anything else, he would serve Zong Rinpoche’s entourage. After that, he would return to Zong Rinpoche’s side and wait while his teacher ate. If there were any leftovers, he would always ask permission to eat them because he believed that his teacher was an enlightened being and that his leftovers were blessed.7 Jun 18, 10:27 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A4: After Burcha served Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, he served Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen. If Geshe La did not need anything more, Burcha would serve Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's entourage.7 Jun 18, 10:26 PM
Callista: A3: Burcha was elected as Zong Rinpoche assistant.. however, due to his funky appearance and red hair has raised an objection from the members7 Jun 18, 10:26 PM
Cc: A2.Burcha immediately developed faith and devotion towards Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and recognise Zong Rinpoche as root teacher.7 Jun 18, 10:26 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A4: Burcha served Zong Rinpoche with total devotion for six months. He would serve Zong Rinpoche first, followed by Geshe La. Normally if Geshe La does not need anything else, Burcha would serve Zong Rinpoche's entourage.7 Jun 18, 10:24 PM
Cc: A1.in 19827 Jun 18, 10:24 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q4. How did Burcha serve both Zong Rinpoche and Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen? 7 Jun 18, 10:24 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A3: Burcha was elected as Kyabje Zong Rinpoche's assistant during His visit despite the objection shown by some center members. The concerns were raised up because of Burcha's funky appearance and red hair. Burcha was unhappy and hurt when he heard about this and hence, Burcha became even more determined to serve Kyabje Zong Rinpoche well.7 Jun 18, 10:23 PM
Celeste: A3. urcha was elected as Zong Rinpoche’s assistant during his visit despite the objection of some center members. They were concerned with Burcha’s funky appearance and red hair.7 Jun 18, 10:23 PM
CarynW: A3: Burcha was elected as Zong Rinpoche’s assistant. There were objections from some center members due to Burcha’s funky appearance and red hair.7 Jun 18, 10:22 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A3: Burcha was elected as Zong Rinpoche’s assistant during his visit despite the objection of some center members.7 Jun 18, 10:22 PM
Jacinta Goh: A3: Burcha was given the role as personal assistant. It wasn’t an unanimous decision as some centre members rejected this suggestion as he was deemed inappropriate, with funky appearance and having red hair.7 Jun 18, 10:22 PM
Celeste: A2. Burcha immediately recognized that Zong Rinpoche as his root teacher and developed faith and devotion towards him.7 Jun 18, 10:22 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A3: Burcha was elected to be Zong Rinpoche's assistant. It wasn't a unanimous decision as there were some objections with regards to his funky looks.7 Jun 18, 10:22 PM
Elaine: Burcha was appointed as Zong Rinpoche’s personal assistant.7 Jun 18, 10:21 PM
Cc: Good evening Rinpoche ,PHN and everyone7 Jun 18, 10:21 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A2: When Burcha met Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, Burcha immediately recognized Kyabje Zong Rinpoche as His root Guru and developed faith and devotion towards Him. Owing Burcha already had a Guru, Kensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tharchin at that time, Burcha kept a true practice of Guru Devotion where Burcha called Kensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tharchin to ask His permission to take refuge in Kyabje Zong Rinpoche. Kensure Rinpoche gave His permission with a condition that Burcha should continue to do the practice which was previous given to Burcha.7 Jun 18, 10:20 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q3. What was Burcha’s elected role during Zong Rinpoche’s visit? Was it a unanimous decision? 7 Jun 18, 10:20 PM
Celeste: Good evening Rinpoche and everyone in chatroom.7 Jun 18, 10:20 PM
Leonard Ooi (KPSG): A2: Burcha immediately recognized Zong Rinpoche as his root teacher and developed faith and devotion toward him.7 Jun 18, 10:19 PM
Callista: A2 continue: A true Guru devotion practice7 Jun 18, 10:18 PM
Callista: A2: He immediately recognized him as his root teacher and developed faith and devotion toward him7 Jun 18, 10:18 PM
CarynW: A2: Burcha immediately recognized Zong Rinpoche as his root teacher and developed faith and devotion toward him.7 Jun 18, 10:18 PM
Elaine: A2. When Burcha saw Zong Rinpoche for the first time, he ecognized Zong Rinpoche as his root teacher immediately and developed faith and devotion toward him.7 Jun 18, 10:17 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A2: Upon sight, Burcha immediately recognized Zong Rinpoche as his root teacher and developed faith and devotion toward him.7 Jun 18, 10:17 PM
Lum Kok Luen: A2: Burcha;s immediate reaction was that he recognized Zong Rinpoche as his root teacher, and developed faith and devotion towards HH.7 Jun 18, 10:17 PM
Jacinta Goh: A2: Burcha immediately developed faith and devotion towards Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and wanted Himto be His Root Guru7 Jun 18, 10:17 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): A2 : Upon sight, Burcha immediately recognized Zong Rinpoche as his root teacher and developed faith and devotion toward him7 Jun 18, 10:16 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q2. What was Burcha’s reaction to the sight of Zong Rinpoche? 7 Jun 18, 10:15 PM
Elaine: A1 That was in yr 1982 when Burcha was 17 years old.7 Jun 18, 10:15 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): A1: Kyabje Zong Rinpoche went to Thubten Dargye Ling in 1982, where He came to teach at the center for 6 months.7 Jun 18, 10:14 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): A1: 19827 Jun 18, 10:14 PM
Callista: When Burcha is 17 years old7 Jun 18, 10:14 PM
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Lum Kok Luen: A1: In 1982. Burcha was only 17 years old at that time.7 Jun 18, 10:14 PM
Jacinta Goh: In the year 19827 Jun 18, 10:14 PM
CarynW: A1: 19827 Jun 18, 10:13 PM
Callista: A1: 19827 Jun 18, 10:13 PM
Jacinta Goh: Pleasant memories for Rinpoche7 Jun 18, 10:13 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): A1 : In Year 19827 Jun 18, 10:13 PM
Choong_Moderator: Q1. When did Kyabje Zong Rinpoche go to Thubten Dargye Ling to teach? 7 Jun 18, 10:12 PM
Choong_Moderator: OK let's begin7 Jun 18, 10:12 PM
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Yee Mun (KISG): Thank you Choong.7 Jun 18, 10:12 PM
Callista: A very good evening to Rinpoche, PHN, Choong and everyone7 Jun 18, 10:11 PM
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Choong_Moderator: Some photos before we start...7 Jun 18, 10:10 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): Important part7 Jun 18, 10:10 PM
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Jacinta Goh: Alright 😋7 Jun 18, 10:09 PM
Elaine: Hello good evening all.7 Jun 18, 10:09 PM
Choong_Moderator: Meeting Kyabje Zong Rinpoche7 Jun 18, 10:08 PM
Jacinta Goh: Which part are we going to discuss today Moderator Choong?7 Jun 18, 10:06 PM
Jacinta Goh: 😁 Hi Grace7 Jun 18, 10:06 PM
Grace Leu(KHJB): Good evening Rinpoche and everyone in chat room.7 Jun 18, 10:06 PM
Choong_Moderator: Hello everyone7 Jun 18, 10:06 PM
Jacinta Goh: Hello Leonard, Kin Hoe and Yee Mun7 Jun 18, 10:05 PM
Yee Mun (KISG): Good evening Rinpoche, Pastor, Choong, Jacinta and everyone7 Jun 18, 10:05 PM
So Kin Hoe(KISG): Good evening Rinpoche, Choong, Jacinta, Caryn, Lum, Leonard and all in chat room7 Jun 18, 10:04 PM
Leonard Ooi (KPSG): hello Jacinta7 Jun 18, 10:04 PM
Leonard Ooi (KPSG): Good evening Rinpoche and all in the room7 Jun 18, 10:02 PM
Jacinta Goh: Hi Lum and Caryn. @ Choong ~ yes, very simple and straightforward too. Very down-to-earth7 Jun 18, 10:00 PM
Lum Kok Luen: Good evening Rinpoche, Choong and everyone in room7 Jun 18, 10:00 PM
CarynW: Good evening Rinpoche, Pastor, Choong, Jacinta and others.7 Jun 18, 09:56 PM
Choong_Moderator: Hi Jacinta, isn't Baba Sawan Singh and Ishwar Puri such great communicators of universal spiritual truth? When I first watched the video of Ishwar Puri, I was so amazed by his clarity.7 Jun 18, 09:55 PM
Jacinta Goh: At the same time, am waiting to join in with other Dharma bro and Sis to discuss an article about H.E. the 25th Tsem Tulku Rinpoche’s biography here later http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/great-lamas-masters/h-e-the-25th-tsem-tulku-rinpoches-biography.html . Come and join in for a Dharma chat later!7 Jun 18, 09:52 PM
Jacinta Goh: Good evening Rinpoche, Pastor, Moderator Choong and others. Am reading the latest blogpost posted up about H.H. Baba Sawan Singh here http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/inspiration-worthy-words/baba-sawan-singh-the-spiritual-luminary-of-india.html7 Jun 18, 05:33 PM
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Meghna: I just watched the videos on the Bodhisattva vows. Simple, yet precise explanations. (And brainfood as usual!) If anyone can add to these, or wishes to critique on my understanding, please do - corrections/opinions really are valued. 1. Clarity/honesty about WHAT and WHO you are and what you aspire for. Spiritual practice can only benefit you if you are there and committed purely for improvement. Its better to know/acknowledge out dark sides as that is what we will have to tackle. And you can’t help yourself if you aren’t honest. Of course, simultaneously wanting to become capable of helping all beings. 2. The basis/motivation = compassion and empathy. I’m not sure, but some degree of these is needed…as the essence of bodhisattva is to purify. ‘Sattva’ is associated to the ‘deva guna’ of purity(light/high celestial) – in contrast to the rajasic (manushya/action/material/neutral) and the lower ‘tamasic’ (rakshas/dark/devolving) actions. If the intent is pure and the action logically, compassionately ascertained and followed as per the teacher’s instruction, it cannot be evil. 3. Courage and determination and reminders. These vows will take ‘constant vigilance’ (Idk why but Mad eye moody from Harry potter popped up) Sounds simple but is TOUGHHHH! As mentioned, when our moods fluctuate, its so very tempting to give up – so out motivation must be very strong – all practices must be incorporated in daily routines. Its better to ask family members to subtly remind you when you are close to be breaking the secondary vows – just to check how well you do initially. 4. The intricacy of ‘balance’. Since (I think it was part 4 of the video) we are not perfect, and very flawed beings, its very easy to get lost in delusional aspirations. If all actions arise from a pure intent, that is good – but not enough. As, actions speak louder than words (Now Sinbad’s ending comes to mind) We have to be especially careful that we do not got lost in the ‘ideas/ideals’ of what is to follow this path – and should keep to the basics as much as possible. Hence, ‘Ego’ and ‘compassion’ which all of us samsaric souls have – which undoubtedly clash and create strange situations. Which brings to the last; 5. Remember the reason. No matter what happens – Never forget that one reason what made you believe/makes you believe that you can help others if you work on yourself. It’s not about delusional, self worth etc – but the belief that one day, everyone can feel safe, can feel free. And that one day, everyone will be able to/will want to come onto this path. Falling back into sloth is so very easy, but when you come out of it, regret takes a whole new meaning. Honestly, this was great. When Religion is truly spiritual, that’s when one gets to want to follow Dharma. Anyways, these were my thoughts. If anyone wants to critique/ add anything, please do! I always appreciate that.7 Jun 18, 12:27 PM
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Meghna: Also tq @jerry_sito - I just saw your altar link 
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Meghna: Thank you Pastor Shin! 4 Jun 18, 02:34 PM
Pastor Shin: Hi Meghna, Welcome back! 1. Yes, you keep filling the water in the exact same manner. You can watch this video: https://youtu.be/T9690NrZ284 2. Yes, you can offer the food to anyone to consume, give away, or offer it to animals. 3. There is no specific direction the altar should face.
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Pastor Shin: Hi Paulo,Welcome to the blog. I will get back to you on this via the email you provided. Thank you.
4 Jun 18, 02:02 PM
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Meghna: Hi all . I am finally getting around to setting up my altar - and I have a few questions. I watched the great instructional video on "How to set up altar, make offerings..." and want to clarify some things. 1. after filling the bowls from the first bowl from the left - do we keep filling the water in the exact same manner? 2. And after removing the food offerings, what do we do? It is okay to offer it to animals? I'm not really sure. 3. And is there is specific direction the altar should face?4 Jun 18, 05:33 AM
Paulo Sérgio: Dear Pastor, My name is Paulo. I'm brazilian. I love Dorje Shugden and Je Tsongkapa's Dharma. I seek mantras from Pema Shugden Wangze, from Setrap and Hayagriva written in Tibetan characters. Could you tell me one way you can do it? Thank you! Tashi Delek!3 Jun 18, 10:13 PM
Liang Jing: QUESTION 3: Is there anything about the appearance and characteristics of the Orang Minyak that stood out to you? If so, why? Ans: No3 Jun 18, 10:08 PM
Jutika Lam: Thank you everyone for joining tonight!3 Jun 18, 10:08 PM
Jutika Lam: CONCLUSION: The one thing that stood out to me about the characteristics of the Orang Minyak is that it is weakened by batik cloth. Even though there is no explanation to this, it is somewhat intriguing.3 Jun 18, 10:06 PM
Jutika Lam: Any more answers?3 Jun 18, 10:02 PM
Naomi: Q3: Not really.3 Jun 18, 09:56 PM
Jutika Lam: QUESTION 3: Is there anything about the appearance and characteristics of the Orang Minyak that stood out to you? If so, why?3 Jun 18, 09:54 PM
Jutika Lam: CONCLUSION: Yes I do believe that there is a chance that such a creature does exist. However, despite the many footage that seem to confirm that the Orang Minyak does exist for sure, it is important to bear in mind that evil minded humans may be using this myth to their advantage to do harm upon others and may not actually be the orang Minyak.3 Jun 18, 09:53 PM
pavara lam: Q2 Ans:I believe that the orang minyak exist due to many footages.3 Jun 18, 09:52 PM
Liang Jing: QUESTION 2: Do you believe the Orang Minyak really exists? Why so? ANS: Yes, I do believe the Orang Minyak really exist, because there are proof that Orang Minyak exist like CCTV footage that the victim’s Facebook posted.3 Jun 18, 09:51 PM
Nicklaus: QUESTION 2: Do you believe the Orang Minyak really exists? Why so?ANS: Yes, I believe it does exists due to the evidence that was provided.3 Jun 18, 09:48 PM
Naomi: Q2: Yes I do believe that it exists because I believe the ghosts and spirits exist and there is a lot of proof that it exists such as CCTV footage, the girl who got attacked and the one when it got arrested.3 Jun 18, 09:44 PM
Liang Jing: QUESTION 1: How did the Orang Minyak originate? Ans:the Orang Minyak gave up his humanity to the devil by bartering his soul in exchange for either supernatural powers or to win back a loved one.3 Jun 18, 09:43 PM
Jutika Lam: QUESTION 2: Do you believe the Orang Minyak really exists? Why so?3 Jun 18, 09:43 PM
pavara lam: Q1 Ans:Orang Minyak gave up his humanity to the devil by bartering his soul in exchange for either supernatural powers or to win back a loved one.3 Jun 18, 09:41 PM
Jutika Lam: CONCLUSION: There are two ways as to how the Orang Minyak originate. 1: The Orang Minyak gave up his humanity to the devil by bartering his soul in exchange for either supernatural powers or to win back a loved one. 2: The other theory maintains that the Orang Minyak is a selfish and deluded human who sought out the dark mystical powers of black magic to satisfy his worldly desires.3 Jun 18, 09:39 PM
Nicklaus: QUESTION 1: How did the Orang Minyak originate? ANS: He gave up his humanity for supernatural powers3 Jun 18, 09:39 PM
Nicklaus: Good evening everyone!3 Jun 18, 09:39 PM
Naomi: Q1: The Orang Minyak gave up his humanity to the devil by bartering his soul in exchange for either supernatural powers or to win back a loved one.3 Jun 18, 09:37 PM
Naomi: Hello Everyone, sorry I’m late.3 Jun 18, 09:36 PM
Jutika Lam: QUESTION 1: How did the Orang Minyak originate?3 Jun 18, 09:36 PM
Jutika Lam: Let's start.3 Jun 18, 09:36 PM
Liang Jing: Yes3 Jun 18, 09:33 PM
Jutika Lam: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/science-mysteries/malaysian-ghosts-orang-minyak.html3 Jun 18, 09:33 PM
Jutika Lam: Have you read today's blog chat topic?3 Jun 18, 09:33 PM
Jutika Lam: Hello Liang Jing3 Jun 18, 09:32 PM
Liang Jing: Hello Rinpoche and everyone!3 Jun 18, 09:30 PM
Jutika Lam: Hello everyone!2 Jun 18, 10:01 PM
José: Thanks Pastor Shin! I will contact Pastor Kok Yek Yee with my questions, then. All the best!, José2 Jun 18, 09:49 PM
Pastor Shin: Hi José, As the selection and training is a rigorous process, we do not have pastor training available in Europe at the moment. You can send your email, addressed to Head Pastor of Kechara, Pastor Kok Yek Yee (yekyee.kok@kechara.com) with more details about your interest and background. We have 2 Pastors from Europe, Pastor Niral Patel from the United Kingdom, and Pastor Antoinette Kass from Luxembourg who are both now residing in Malaysia. You can read more about them, and the rest of the Pastors here: http://www.kechara.com/kechara-house/pastors/
2 Jun 18, 09:29 PM
José: Hi Pastor Shin...and thanks! So there is no pastor training available in Europe? If someone was interested, how could they go about it?2 Jun 18, 09:23 PM
Pastor Shin: Hi José, Welcome to TsemRinpoche.com. You can read more about the Kechara Pastors here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/kechara-13-depts/support-the-kechara-pastors.html If you have more questions, you can always ask here. We do not have an affiliated group of Tsem Rinpoche in Europe at the moment. However, H.E. Tsem Rinpoche has made available many of his teachings online, via this blog TsemRinpoche.com, as well as on other platforms like Youtube, Facebook live and so on. Let me know what topics interest you, perhaps I can direct you to the suitable resources/articles.
2 Jun 18, 09:09 PM
José: Can someone speak to the ordination process of the pastors? Is there an affiliated group of Tsem Rinpoche´s in Europe? Thank you.2 Jun 18, 12:29 PM
Victor.C: Thank you Rinpcohe, moderator and everyone!2 Jun 18, 12:26 PM
Wan Wai Meng: Thank You Rinpoche for having this platform and all participants.2 Jun 18, 12:26 PM
Sofi: Thank you Rinpoche, Joy for moderating and everyone2 Jun 18, 12:25 PM
Joy_Moderator: Bye all, be safe and have a great weekend! See you next week!2 Jun 18, 12:25 PM
Lin Mun: Thank you Rinpoche and everyone.2 Jun 18, 12:25 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Rinpoche for giving us this platform to learn and expand our knowledge!2 Jun 18, 12:25 PM
Pastor Antoinette: Thank you Rinpoche, thank you Joy and everyone. Have a great day ahead!2 Jun 18, 12:25 PM
Alice: Thank you Rinpoche, Joy and everyone.2 Jun 18, 12:25 PM
Valentina: Looking forward to chatting with you…Next Saturday’s topic is
Su Shi: The Song Dynasty Poet and Chan Buddhism Enthusiast
http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/books-poetry/su-shi-the-song-dynasty-poet-and-chan-buddhism-enthusiast.html
See you!!
2 Jun 18, 12:24 PM
Joy_Moderator: Yes @Victor correct answer for no.5 thank you2 Jun 18, 12:24 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you everyone who participated in today's blog chat. I'm sorry but we have gone way over our time but I'm glad everyone is staying on to finish answering all the questions. Please do your dedications before you go! _/|\_2 Jun 18, 12:23 PM
Victor.C: A5. - Tashi Lunpo Monastery, he has a special temple and chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden.
- Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily.
- Many lay people visit this famous chapel of Dorje Shugden daily in times of need and urgency.
- The laity requests Dorje Shugden rituals also daily.
- Panchen Rinpoche in his great omniscience held Dorje Shugden as a principal dharma protector of his lineage and personal propitiation together with other protectors of Tashi Lhunpo.
2 Jun 18, 12:22 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you @Lin Mun for the correct answer 2 Jun 18, 12:21 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thanks @Wei Theng, your last paragraph is the key answer 2 Jun 18, 12:21 PM
Joy_Moderator: Excellent answer Wai Meng - Thank you!2 Jun 18, 12:20 PM
Lin Mun: A5 : Tashi Lunpo Monastery has a special temple and chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden. Special activities in the monastery - Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily. Many lay people visit this famous chapel of Dorje Shugden daily in times of need and urgency. The laity requests Dorje Shugden rituals also daily. Panchen Rinpoche in his great omniscience held Dorje Shugden as a principal dharma protector of his lineage and personal propitiation together with other protectors of Tashi Lhunpo.
2 Jun 18, 12:17 PM
Wei Theng: 5. What is so special about the grand Tashi Lunpo Monastery and what kind of special activities happen daily in this special part of the monastery? - The monastery was founded in 1447 CE by Gedun Drub, the nephew and disciple of the famous Buddhist philosopher Je Tsongkhapa and later named the First Dalai Lama. The construction was financed by donations from local nobles.
- Later Lobsang Chökyi Gyalsten, the Fourth Panchen Lama and the first Panchen Lama to be recognized as such by the rulers of Mongolia, made major expansions to the monastery. Since then, all Panchen Lamas have resided at Tashilhunpo, and have managed to expand it gradually.
- Tashi Lunpo Monastery, Panchen Lama has a special temple and chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden. Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily. Many lay people visit this famous chapel of Dorje Shugden daily in times of need and urgency. The laity requests Dorje Shugden rituals also daily.
2 Jun 18, 12:17 PM
Wan Wai Meng: 5. What is so special about the grand Tashi Lunpo Monastery and what kind of special activities happen daily in this special part of the monastery? In the very large Tashi Lunpo Monastery, he had a special temple and chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden. Special pujas, rites and rituals were performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily. Many lay people visit this famous chapel of Dorje Shugden daily in times of need and urgency. The laity requests Dorje Shugden rituals also daily.
The teacher of the Dalai Lamas, gives special attention to compose teachings and ritual practices, is the opposite to the current Dorje Shugden ban and discrimination towards the Dorje Shugden lamas and teachings of today. So we should trust the Panchen Lama who was the guru of all gurus, and millions of sentient beings.
2 Jun 18, 12:16 PM
Joy_Moderator: @Sofi your answer does not quite answer the question... take a look at some of the others who got it right (even though answers are short) or see my answer ya Thank you2 Jun 18, 12:15 PM
Victor.C: 4. - In 1959, when the 14th Dalai Lama fled into exile, Dalai Lama was heard to say and echo the 10th Panchen Lama’s words that Dalai Lama will safeguard Tibet from the outside while Panchen Lama safeguard Tibet from the inside as he never left Tibet for exile.
- His refusal to denounce the Dalai Lama as a traitor brought him into disfavour with the Chinese government, which imprisoned him in Beijing in 1964.
Panchen Lama never at any time denounced or criticized His Holiness the Dalai Lama and therefore Panchen Lama was beaten and tortured many times by Chinese government.
2 Jun 18, 12:14 PM
Joy_Moderator: 5. What is so special about the grand Tashi Lunpo Monastery and what kind of special activities happen daily in this special part of the monastery? - What is special is that Tashi Lunpo Monastery has a special temple and chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden.
- Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily. Many lay people visit this famous chapel of Dorje Shugden daily in times of need and urgency. The laity also request for Dorje Shugden rituals daily.
- The Panchen Lama in his great omniscience held Dorje Shugden as a principal dharma protector of his lineage and personal propitiation together with other protectors of Tashi Lhunpo.
- He even wrote prayers, offerings and rites among his works to Dorje Shugden. He personally wrote extensive prayers and rites to Dorje Shugden in his collected written works.
- Therefore, when someone of Panchen Rinpoche’s stature practices Dorje Shugden, has a special temple and chapel for this protector and also writes rituals and rites for this deity, we have no doubts Dorje Shugden is important and enlightened.
2 Jun 18, 12:14 PM
Sofi: A5 : Tashi Lunpo was founded in 1447 CE by Gedun Drub, the nephew and disciple of the famous Buddhist philosopher Je Tsongkhapa and later named the First Dalai Lama. Later Lobsang Chökyi Gyalsten, the Fourth Panchen Lama and the first Panchen Lama to be recognized as such by the rulers of Mongolia, made major expansions to the monastery. Since then, all Panchen Lamas have resided at Tashilhunpo, and have managed to expand it gradually. When the Panchen Lama gave public discourses literally hundreds of thousands would attend, from scholars, teachers, masters and lineage holders of all traditions of Tibetan Buddhism, Government Ministers both Tibetan and Chinese and the humblest farmer. The Panchen Lama has a special temple and chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden. Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily. Many lay people visit this famous chapel of Dorje Shugden daily in times of need and urgency. The laity requests Dorje Shugden rituals also daily. Panchen Rinpoche in his great omniscience held Dorje Shugden as a principal dharma protector of his lineage and personal propitiation together with other protectors of Tashi Lhunpo. There wa no conflict.2 Jun 18, 12:14 PM
Joy_Moderator: Correct answer @Velentina, Pastor Antoinette, Pastor Shin and Alice! Thank you 2 Jun 18, 12:12 PM
Alice: 5. What is so special about the grand Tashi Lunpo Monastery and what kind of special activities happen daily in this special part of the monastery?Ans 1: The monastery was founded by 1st Dalai Lama, Gedun Drub.
2. It has a large and beautiful Dorje Shugden chapel.
3. Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily.
2 Jun 18, 12:12 PM
Pastor Shin: A5. What is special about the Tashi Lhunpo Monastery is that it has a special temple and chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden.Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily. Many lay people visit this famous chapel of Dorje Shugden daily in times of need and urgency. The laity requests Dorje Shugden rituals also daily. Panchen Rinpoche in his great omniscience held Dorje Shugden as a principal dharma protector of his lineage and personal propitiation together with other protectors of Tashi Lhunpo. There was no conflict. Panchen Lama personally wrote extensive prayers and rites to Dorje Shugden in his collected written works.
2 Jun 18, 12:11 PM
Pastor Antoinette: 5. What is so special about the grand Tashi Lunpo Monastery and what kind of special activities happen daily in this special part of the monastery? The monastery was founded in 1447 CE by Gedun Drub, the nephew and disciple of the famous Buddhist philosopher Je Tsongkhapa and later named the First Dalai Lama. In his large sprawling Tashi Lunpo Monastery, the Panchen Lama has a special temple and chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden. Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily.
2 Jun 18, 12:11 PM
Valentina: ANS 5: Tashi Lunpo Monastery is special because it contains a special temple and chapel dedicated to Dorje Shugden. Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily.2 Jun 18, 12:10 PM
Joy_Moderator: Excellent answer @Grace! Well done 2 Jun 18, 12:09 PM
Grace Tan: 5. What is so special about the grand Tashi Lunpo Monastery and what kind of special activities happen daily in this special part of the monastery? Panchen Lama has a special temple and chapel dedicated to DS at Tashi Lunpo Monastery. Special pujas, rites and rituals are performed to Dorje Shugden within this chapel by senior monks daily. Many lay people visit this famous chapel of Dorje Shugden daily in times of need and urgency. The laity requests Dorje Shugden rituals also daily. Panchen Rinpoche in his great omniscience held Dorje Shugden as a principal dharma protector of his lineage and personal propitiation together with other protectors of Tashi Lhunpo. He even wrote prayers, offerings and rites among his works to Dorje Shugden which will be provided here. Panchen Rinpoche personally wrote extensive prayers and rites to Dorje Shugden in his collected written works. When someone of Panchen Rinpoche’s stature practices Dorje Shugden, has a special temple and chapel for this protector and also writes rituals and rites for this deity, we have no doubts Dorje Shugden is important and enlightened.
2 Jun 18, 12:08 PM
Joy_Moderator: Correct @Pastor Antoinette, thank you!2 Jun 18, 12:07 PM
Pastor Antoinette: 4. Why did the Chinese imprisoned the Panchen Lama in 1964, beaten and tortured? Panchen Lama never at any time denounced or criticized His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Therefore he was beaten and tortured many times, but his mind could not be swayed.2 Jun 18, 12:07 PM
Joy_Moderator: Yes Sofi 2 Jun 18, 12:07 PM
Sofi: A5 :2 Jun 18, 12:06 PM
Joy_Moderator: Excellent answer for Q.4 @adrian, thank you!2 Jun 18, 12:06 PM
Joy_Moderator: Thanks @Wai Meng... correcto 2 Jun 18, 12:05 PM
adrian chow: 4. In 1959, when the 14th Dalai Lama fled into exile, what did the Panchen Lama do? Why did the Chinese imprisoned the Panchen Lama in 1964, beaten and tortured?The Panchen Lama remained in Tibet in 1959 after the popular revolt and the Dalai Lama’s flight into exile, but his refusal to denounce the Dalai Lama as a traitor brought him into disfavour with the Chinese government, which imprisoned him in Beijing in 1964. He was released in the late 1970s and died in 1989. Panchen Lama never at any time denounced or criticized His Holiness the Dalai Lama. For this he was beaten and tortured many times, but his mind could not be swayed.
2 Jun 18, 12:05 PM
Joy_Moderator: FINAL QUESTION 5. What is so special about the grand Tashi Lunpo Monastery and what kind of special activities happen daily in this special part of the monastery? 2 Jun 18, 12:05 PM
Wan Wai Meng: 4. In 1959, when the 14th Dalai Lama fled into exile, what did the Panchen Lama do? Why did the Chinese imprisoned the Panchen Lama in 1964, beaten and tortured? The Great 10th Panchen Lama stayed back to take care of the Tibetans. The Panchen Lama was beaten and tortured because he would not call the Dalai Lama a traitor or denounce the Dalai Lama.
2 Jun 18, 12:04 PM
Joy_Moderator: 5. What is so special about the grand Tashi Lunpo Monastery and what kind of special activities happen daily in this special part of the monastery? 2 Jun 18, 12:04 PM
Joy_Moderator: Ok we are running out of time soon... so those who have answer question 4... let's move on to question 52 Jun 18, 12:04 PM
Victor.C: A3. - Khedrup Je who studied under the great Lama Tsongkhapa himself is the direct incarnation of Panchen Lama.
- Panchen Lama also showed his mastery of composition,poetry in the Sadhana and poetry is in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Lama wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel.
2 Jun 18, 12:03 PM
Joy_Moderator: 4. In 1959, when the 14th Dalai Lama fled into exile, what did the Panchen Lama do? Why did the Chinese imprisoned the Panchen Lama in 1964, beaten and tortured? - When the Dalai Lama fled into exile, the Panchen Lama stayed back in Tibet. - The Chinese imprisoned the Panchen Lama who refused to denounce the Dalai Lama as a traitor. This brought him into disfavour with the Chinese government, which imprisoned him in Beijing in 1964. - The Panchen Lama never at any time denounced or criticised His Holiness the Dalai Lama and because of this he was beaten and tortured many times. Even then his mind could not be swayed.
2 Jun 18, 12:03 PM
Joy_Moderator: Dear @Sofi and @Valentina your answers are good but not quite what I was looking for. For a more accurate one, see back Pastor Shin's or Alice's answer here Pastor Antoinette as well... see Alice's answer2 Jun 18, 12:02 PM
Grace Tan: 4. In 1959, when the 14th Dalai Lama fled into exile, what did the Panchen Lama do? Why did the Chinese imprisoned the Panchen Lama in 1964, beaten and tortured? The Panchen Lama has stayed back in Tibet. The 14th Dalai Lama was said to safeguard Tibet from the outside while Panchen Lama safeguard Tibet from the inside as he never left Tibet for exile. Panchen Lama refused to denounce and criticize the 14th Dalai Lama as a traitor and hence bringing him into disfavor with the Chinese government. He was imprisoned in Beijing in 1964, beaten and tortured many times before released in the late 1970s.
2 Jun 18, 12:02 PM
Pastor Antoinette: 4. In 1959, when the 14th Dalai Lama fled into exile, what did the Panchen Lama do? Why did the Chinese imprisoned the Panchen Lama in 1964, beaten and tortured? When the Dalai Lama fled to India in 1959, the Panchen Lama publicly supported the Chinese government, and the Chinese brought him to Lhasa and made him chairman of the Preparatory Committee for the Tibet Autonomous Region.
In 1964, he was publicly humiliated at Politburo meetings, dismissed from all posts of authority, declared ‘an enemy of the Tibetan people’, had his dream journal confiscated and used against him, and then imprisoned. He was 26 years old at the time. This happened because in May 1962, he met Zhou Enlai to discuss a petition he had written, criticizing the situation in Tibet. The petition was a 70,000-character document that dealt with the brutal suppression of the Tibetan people during and after the Chinese invasion of Tibet. The initial reaction was positive, but in October 1962, the PRC authorities dealing with the population criticized the petition. Chairman Mao called the petition “… a poisoned arrow shot at the Party by reactionary feudal overlords.”
2 Jun 18, 12:00 PM
Lin Mun: A4 : When 14th Dalai Lama fled, Panchen Lama stayed in Tibet and publicly supported the Chinese government. Panchen Lama never at any time denounced or criticized His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Therefore he was beaten and tortured many times, but his mind could not be swayed.
2 Jun 18, 12:00 PM
Joy_Moderator: Absolutely correct @WaiMeng, thank you and for all the extra bits of info _/|\_2 Jun 18, 12:00 PM
Valentina: ANS 4:When the Dalai Lama fled into exile, the Panchen Lama publicly supported the Chinese government, and the Chinese brought him to Lhasa and made him chairman of the Preparatory Committee for the Tibet Autonomous Region.
The Panchen Lama was imprisoned, beaten and tortured because of the petition he had written criticizing the situation in Tibet. Although the initial reaction was positive, later in October 1962, the PRC authorities dealing with the population criticized the petition. Chairman Mao called the petition “… a poisoned arrow shot at the Party by reactionary feudal overlords.”
As a result in 1964, the 10th Panchen Lama was publicly humiliated, imprison, beaten and tortured.
2 Jun 18, 11:59 AM
Sofi: A4 : The Panchen Lama stayed behind and publicly supported the Chinese government, and the Chinese brought him to Lhasa and made him chairman of the Preparatory Committee for the Tibet Autonomous Region. Due to a petition the Panchen Lama had written in 1962, criticizing the situation in Tibet which Chairman Mao liken to "a poisoned arrow shot at the Party by reactionary feudal overlords.”, in 1964, he was publicly humiliated at Politburo meetings, dismissed from all posts of authority, declared ‘an enemy of the Tibetan people’, had his dream journal confiscated and used against him, and then imprisoned.2 Jun 18, 11:59 AM
Wan Wai Meng: 3. Who is the Panchen Lama considered to be a direct incarnation of and how can we see this? The Panchen Lama is a physical incarnation of Khedrup Je, the student of Je Rinpoche.
The 10th Panchen Lama a master of sutra and tantra, composed a kangsol to Dorje Shudgen. Called the “Melodious sound of Accomplishment of the Four Activities”. Acharya Lobsang Jangchub and the Panchen Rinpoche felt there was a need to have a shorter version of prayer for exhortation of activities from the protector Dorje Shugden.
Panchen Rinpoche also showed his mastery of composition and poetry in this particular Dorje Shugden kangsol. He experienced much bliss and happiness during the composition of the kangsol.
The level of composition and poetry sophistication, had only been seen in the Kangsol of other senior dharma protectors such as Kalarup and Palden Lhamo. He also signed off using all his officials designations.
The Lama Chopa/Guru Puja prayer used till this day, was composed by the Panchen Lama proving his scholastic competencies as an incarnation of Khedrup Je.
2 Jun 18, 11:57 AM
Joy_Moderator: Excellent answer Pastor Shin and Alice for no.4 --- Everyone please do look at their answer to check if yours is correct 2 Jun 18, 11:57 AM
Victor.C: A2. - The 9th Panchen Lama helped identify three potential candidates of the 14th Dalai Lama.
- He gave details to Kewtsang Rinpoche to investigate the potential candidates of reincarnate 14th Dalai Lama.
- Panchen Lama Thubten Chökyi Nyima was the first who discovered and indentified the 14th Dalai Lama.
2 Jun 18, 11:56 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Sofi and Adrian for your answer no.3. It is correct 2 Jun 18, 11:56 AM
Alice: 4. In 1959, when the 14th Dalai Lama fled into exile, what did the Panchen Lama do? Why did the Chinese imprisoned the Panchen Lama in 1964, beaten and tortured?Ans 1: Panchen Lama stayed and safeguard Tibet from the inside as he never left Tibet for exile.
2. Panchen Lama refusal to denounce the Dalai Lama as a traitor brought him into disfavour with the Chinese government, which imprisoned him in Beijing in 1964. He was released in the late 1970s and died in 1989. Panchen Lama never at any time denounced or criticized His Holiness the Dalai Lama. For this he was beaten and tortured many times, but his mind could not be swayed.
2 Jun 18, 11:55 AM
adrian chow: 3. Who is the Panchen Lama considered to be a direct incarnation of and how can we see this? Panchen Lama considered as a direct incarnation of Khedrup Je who studied under the great Lama Tsongkhapa himself, the Panchen Rinpoche also showed his mastery of composition and poetry in the Sadhana.
An example of such poetry is in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Rinpoche wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel. Such composition are only seen in praises to senior protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa.
2 Jun 18, 11:54 AM
Pastor Shin: A4. In 1959, when the 14th Dalai Lama fled into exile, the Panchen Lama remained in Tibet . His refusal to denounce the Dalai Lama as a traitor brought him into disfavour with the Chinese government, which imprisoned him in Beijing in 1964. He was released in the late 1970s and died in 1989. Panchen Lama never at any time denounced or criticized His Holiness the Dalai Lama. For this he was beaten and tortured many times, but his mind could not be swayed.2 Jun 18, 11:53 AM
Sofi: A3 : The Panchen Lama lineage dates back to 1385, when the first Panchen Lama Khedrup Geleg Pal Sangpo was a direct disciple of Je Tsongkapa, and since then, Tibetan history has seen the seamless reincarnations of Panchen Lamas until today. The Panchen Lama is a master of composition and poetry in the Sadhana. An example of such poetry is in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Rinpoche wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel. Such composition are only seen in praises to senior protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa.2 Jun 18, 11:52 AM
Joy_Moderator: 4. In 1959, when the 14th Dalai Lama fled into exile, what did the Panchen Lama do? Why did the Chinese imprisoned the Panchen Lama in 1964, beaten and tortured?2 Jun 18, 11:52 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank Valentina, correct.2 Jun 18, 11:52 AM
Valentina: ANS 3:The Panchen Lama is considered to be a direct incarnation of direct incarnation of Khedrup Je who studied under the great Lama Tsongkhapa himself.
the Panchen Rinpoche also showed his mastery of composition and poetry in the Sadhana. An example of such poetry is in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Rinpoche wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel. Such composition are only seen in praises to senior protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa.
2 Jun 18, 11:52 AM
Joy_Moderator: 4. In 1959, when the 14th Dalai Lama fled into exile, what did the Panchen Lama do? Why did the Chinese imprisoned the Panchen Lama in 1964, beaten and tortured?2 Jun 18, 11:51 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Pastor Antoinetter and Lin Mun for the right answers 2 Jun 18, 11:51 AM
Joy_Moderator: 3. Who is the Panchen Lama considered to be a direct incarnation of and how can we see this? - The Panchen Lama is considered the direct incarnation of Khedrup Je who studied under and is the heart disciple of the great Lama Tsongkhapa. - We can see this through the Panchen Rinpoche’s mastery of composition and poetry in the Sadhana, such as in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Rinpoche wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel. Such composition are only seen in praises to senior protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa.
2 Jun 18, 11:50 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin, Pastor Adeline and Grace Tan... but Grace your answer can expand more, see Pastors answer ya. Thank you2 Jun 18, 11:50 AM
Lin Mun: A3 : He is the incarnation of Khedrup the disciple of Lama Tsongkhapa. . He showed his mastery of composition and poetry in the Sadhana. An example of such poetry is in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Rinpoche wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel. Such composition are only seen in praises to senior protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa
2 Jun 18, 11:50 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 3. Who is the Panchen Lama considered to be a direct incarnation of:The Panchen Lama is a direct incarnation of Khedrup Je who studied under the great Lama Tsongkhapa himself.
and how can we see this?
The Panchen Rinpoche also showed his mastery of composition and poetry in the Sadhana. An example of such poetry is in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Rinpoche wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel. Such composition are only seen in praises to senior protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa.
2 Jun 18, 11:47 AM
Grace Tan: 3. Who is the Panchen Lama considered to be a direct incarnation of and how can we see this? Panchen Lama is considered to be a direct incarnation of Khedrup Je.
His works showed in composition and poetry in the Sadhana.
2 Jun 18, 11:47 AM
Pastor Adeline: A3 The Panchen Lama is considered to be a direct incarnation Khedrup Je, the regent of Tantra and heart disciple of Je Tsongkapa. This can be seen through his mastery of composition and poetry in the Sadhana. An example of such poetry is in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Rinpoche wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel. Such composition are only seen in praises to senior protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa.2 Jun 18, 11:45 AM
Pastor Shin: A3. The Panchen Lama is considered to be a direct incarnation of Khedrup Je who studied under the great Lama Tsongkhapa himself. We can see this through the Panchen Lama's mastery of composition and poetry in the Sadhana. An example of such poetry is in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Lama wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel. Such composition are only seen in praises to senior protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa.
2 Jun 18, 11:45 AM
Joy_Moderator: Everyone please see Alice's answer to verify with your answer for Question no.3 
2 Jun 18, 11:44 AM
Joy_Moderator: Hi @Victor welcome to blogchat. Yes No.1 answer is right. To make sure you get the right answers, see what others have posted 2 Jun 18, 11:43 AM
Victor.C: A1. - In the 17th century the fifth Dalai Lama declared that his tutor, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen (1570–1662), who was the current Panchen Lama, would be reincarnated in a child.
- He thus became the first of the line of reincarnated lamas named Panchen Lamas who are regarded as physical manifestations of the Buddha Amitabah.
2 Jun 18, 11:42 AM
Joy_Moderator: Everyone please see Alice's answer to verify with your 2 Jun 18, 11:42 AM
Joy_Moderator: YES excellent answer @Alice... spot on!2 Jun 18, 11:42 AM
Joy_Moderator: @Pastor Antoinette you are not wrong but that is more emanation of, there is another person he is considered a direct incarnation of... which is... Khedrup Je who studied under and is the heart disciple of the great Lama Tsongkhapa. Then you will find the rest of the answers 2 Jun 18, 11:41 AM
Alice: 3. Who is the Panchen Lama considered to be a direct incarnation of and how can we see this? (as in through what, his works, deeds? It is mentioned in the blog post).Ans 1: Khedrup Je, the regent of Tantra and heart disciple of Je Tsongkapa.
2. His works showed in composition and poetry in the Sadhana. An example of such poetry is in the praise of Dorje Shugden where the Panchen Rinpoche wrote the praise with the first letter of each verse with a Tibetan vowel. Such composition are only seen in praises to senior protectors such as Palden Lhamo and Kalarupa.
2 Jun 18, 11:39 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you @Chris better and correct answer... but to be more accurate: The 9th Panchen Lama helped in identifying three potential candidates of the 14th Dalai Lama.
- He gave their details to the search party leader, Kewtsang Rinpoche, who then investigated further.
2 Jun 18, 11:39 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 3. Who is the Panchen Lama considered to be a direct incarnation of and how can we see this?The Panchen Lamas are regarded as physical manifestations of the Buddha Amitabah. The Panchen Lama’s stature, erudite understanding of the scriptures, teacher to millions in Tibet and China, established incarnation line and emanated directly from Amitabha.
2 Jun 18, 11:37 AM
Chris Chong: A2 : The 9th Panchen Lama has a close relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama. He helped to identity 3 potential candidates for the 14th Dalai Lama before the search party had gone to him for advice.2 Jun 18, 11:36 AM
Joy_Moderator: @Chris has a close relationship with who please... is there more to your answer... hint hint... take a look at my answer... it is out already 2 Jun 18, 11:35 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Pastor Antoinette and Alice your no.2 answer is right2 Jun 18, 11:35 AM
Chris Chong: A2: The 9th Panchen Lama has close relationshop2 Jun 18, 11:34 AM
Joy_Moderator: 3. Who is the Panchen Lama considered to be a direct incarnation of and how can we see this? (as in through what, his works, deeds? It is mentioned in the blog post)2 Jun 18, 11:34 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 2. Describe the 9th Panchen Lama’s relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama? Who did the 9th Panchen Lama help identify? The Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama had a close relationship. The search team for HH the 14th Dalai Lama's reincarnation visited the Panchen Lama in Kham, eastern Tibet, to seek his advice. The Panchen Lama had identified three potential candidates. He gave their details to the search party leader, Kewtsang Rinpoche. The third candidate, who lived in Tagster, was characterised as ‘fearless’ and he was indeed found to be the true incarnation.
2 Jun 18, 11:34 AM
Alice: 2. Describe the 9th Panchen Lama’s relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama? Who did the 9th Panchen Lama help identify?Ans 1: 9th Panchen Lama helped to identify 14th Dalai Lama with three potential candidates. He gave their details to the search party leader, Kewtsang Rinpoche, who then investigated further. One of these three candidates was already dead and another ran away crying when shown the objects belonging to the late Dalai Lama. The third candidate, who lived in Tagster, was characterised as ‘fearless’ and he was indeed found to be the true incarnation. Thus, it was this Panchen Lama Thubten Chökyi Nyima who first discovered and indentified the 14th Dalai Lama.
2. Agvan Dorzhiev Dorzhiev received some secret teachings from the Panchen Lama. Agvan Dorzhiev Dorzhiev was one of the tutors of 13th Dalai Lama.
2 Jun 18, 11:34 AM
Valentina: ]ANS2:The harmony of the relationship between the 13th Dalai Lama and the 9th Panchen Lama seemed to be affected by political difficulties. The 9th Panchen Lama fled to Inner Mongolia in 1924 after a dispute with the 13th Dalai Lama. The 9th Panchen Lama sensed that he might face threat after his own monastery's monks were prohibited from holding office in the Tibetan government and his officials were locked up in Lhasa.
The 13th Dalai Lama helped to identify the 14th Dalai Lama.
2 Jun 18, 11:34 AM
Wan Wai Meng: 2. Describe the 9th Panchen Lama’s relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama? Who did the 9th Panchen Lama help identify? A. The 13th Dalai Lama and the 9th Panchen Lama were contemporaries. The 9th Panchen Lama experienced some difficulties with the Gaden Phodrang and the 13th Dalai Lama, resulting in him having to leave Tibet for Mongolia. At Mongolia the 9th Panchen Lama was very well loved.
Historically a tradition was started that the Panchen Lama identified the next Dalai Lama, and the converse was also true.
The 9th Panchen Lama identified 3 candidates for the 14th Dalai Lama when the 13th Dalai Lama passed away in 1933, and one of them eventually became the 14th Dalai Lama.
2 Jun 18, 11:33 AM
Lin Mun: A2: While it may appear that Panchen Lama and 13th Dalai Lama have dispute but they have close relationship where one will identify the reincarnation of the each other. The 9th Panchen Lama helps to identify the 14th Dalai Lama.
2 Jun 18, 11:33 AM
Grace Tan: 2. Describe the 9th Panchen Lama’s relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama? Who did the 9th Panchen Lama help identify? There is a historial close relationship between the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama.
The 9th Panchen Lama helped to identify the new reincarnation of the 13th Dalai Lama, who had died in 1933. While negotiations were going on between the Lhasa Government, the Panchen Lama and the Chinese authorities about the escort issue, the 9th Panchen Lama was stuck in Jyekundo. He had therefore been busy investigating reports of unusual children born in the area, who might be the reincarnation of the 13th Dalai Lama.
2 Jun 18, 11:33 AM
Joy_Moderator: 3. Who is the Panchen Lama considered to be a direct incarnation of and how can we see this? 2 Jun 18, 11:33 AM
Joy_Moderator: Let's move on...2 Jun 18, 11:32 AM
Joy_Moderator: 2. Describe the 9th Panchen Lama’s relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama? Who did the 9th Panchen Lama help identify? - The 9th Panchen Lama had a very close relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama.
- He helped in identifying three potential candidates of the 14th Dalai Lama.
- He gave their details to the search party leader, Kewtsang Rinpoche, who then investigated further.
- The third candidate, who lived in Tagster, was characterised as ‘fearless’ and found to be the true incarnation of the Dalai Lama.
- Therefore, this Panchen Lama Thubten Chökyi Nyima was the first who discovered and indentified the 14th Dalai Lama
2 Jun 18, 11:32 AM
Joy_Moderator: Pastor Shin posted again with the words more spread out --- thank you. You guys can take a look there 2 Jun 18, 11:32 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Pastor Adeline for your correct answer2 Jun 18, 11:31 AM
adrian chow: @Joy...lol2 Jun 18, 11:31 AM
Pastor Shin: Reposted @Joy_Moderator, thank you.2 Jun 18, 11:31 AM
Joy_Moderator: Hi @WeiTheng... yes your answer is right but which Dalai Lama did the Panchen Lama helped identify here, can you state 2 Jun 18, 11:31 AM
Pastor Shin: A2. The Panchen Lamas are historically close with the Dalai Lama, including during the time of the 13th Dalai Lama. The Panchen Lama helped to identify the reincarnation of the the 13th Dalai Lama. He identified three potential candidates and gave their details to the search party leader, Kewtsang Rinpoche, who then investigated further. The third candidate, who lived in Tagster, was characterised as ‘fearless’ and he was indeed found to be the true incarnation. Thus, it was this Panchen Lama Thubten Chökyi Nyima who first discovered and indentified the 14th Dalai Lama.2 Jun 18, 11:30 AM
Sofi: @Joy_Moderator, yes will look at PST's reply.2 Jun 18, 11:29 AM
Joy_Moderator: @Adrian information overloaded... lol... take a look at Pastor Shin's answer2 Jun 18, 11:29 AM
Wei Theng: Good morning Rinpoche, Joy & all! 2. Describe the 9th Panchen Lama’s relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama? Who did the 9th Panchen Lama help identify?
- Both 9th Panchen Lama & Dalai Lama has very close historical relationship.
- 9th panchen Lama helped to identify the reincarnation of Dalai Lama
2 Jun 18, 11:28 AM
Pastor Adeline: A2. There is a historical close relationship between the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama, and the 9th Panchen Lama helped identified the 13th Dalai Lama.2 Jun 18, 11:28 AM
adrian chow: 2. Describe the 9th Panchen Lama’s relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama? Who did the 9th Panchen Lama help identify? A2. Thubten Choekyi the 9th Panchen Lama fled to Inner Mongolia, China in 1924 after a dispute with the thirteenth Dalai Lama when he sensed that he might face threat after his own monastery’s monks were prohibited from holding any office in the Central Tibetan government and his officials were locked up in Lhasa. Among the Mongols, the 9th Panchen Lama became a well-liked figure. At the same time, study of documents did not confirmed widespread claims that rebellions in the 1930s Mongolia were inspired or supported by the 9th Panchen Lama. The Dalai Lama was attempting to collect revenue from the Panchen Lama’s estate to cover a fourth of Tibet’s military expenses, and to reduce the power of the Panchen Lama, who at the time enjoyed rule over an effectively autonomous region around Shigatse. And it was the 9th Panchen Lama Thubten Chökyi Nyima who first discovered and indentified the 14th Dalai Lama.
2 Jun 18, 11:28 AM
Joy_Moderator: Take a look at hers 2 Jun 18, 11:28 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you @Sofi, your answer is from a different angle from Pastor Shin's, and it is also good and correct 2 Jun 18, 11:26 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you @Alice your no.2 is the main answer for no.1 2 Jun 18, 11:26 AM
Sofi: Q2 : From centuries past, an interesting relationship has existed between the Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama of the Gelug sect: the Elder acting as the spiritual teacher of the Younger; and the Younger leading the search for the new incarnation after the passing of the Elder. Herein, lies the significance of the role of the Panchen Lama, who plays a significant role in the search for and identification of the reincarnation of the Dalai Lamas, just as the Dalai Lamas leads the search for and identification of the Panchen Lamas’ reincarnation. The 9th Panchen Lama helped identify the 13th Dalai Lama2 Jun 18, 11:26 AM
Joy_Moderator: Yes @LinMun your 1st answer is correct 2 Jun 18, 11:25 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thanks Pastor Shin for your correct answer but I think some words are joined and they texts seem to be too near each other. Try to spread them out with more spacing for the next answer 2 Jun 18, 11:24 AM
Alice: . How did the first Panchen Lama come about and who were the Panchen Lama regarded as?Ans: 1. The title Panchen (a short form of the Sanskrit-Tibetan Pandita Chen-po, or “Great Scholar”) was that traditionally given to head abbots of the Tashi Lhunpo Monastery, who were chosen for their maturity and learning.
2. In the 17th century the fifth Dalai Lama declared that his tutor, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen (1570–1662), who was the current Panchen Lama, would be reincarnated in a child. He thus became the first of the line of reincarnated lamas named Panchen Lamas who are regarded as physical manifestations of the Buddha Amitabah.
2 Jun 18, 11:23 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Grace for your correct answer 2 Jun 18, 11:23 AM
Lin Mun: A1 : In the 17th century the fifth Dalai Lama declared that his tutor, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen (1570–1662), who was the current Panchen Lama, would be reincarnated in a child. He thus became the first of the line of reincarnated lamas named Panchen Lama. Panchen Lamas is regarded as physical manifestations of the Buddha Amitabah.
2 Jun 18, 11:22 AM
Joy_Moderator: 2. Describe the 9th Panchen Lama’s relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama? Who did the 9th Panchen Lama help identify?2 Jun 18, 11:22 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you @Pastor Antoinette excellent answer _/|\_2 Jun 18, 11:22 AM
Grace Tan: Q1. How did the first Panchen Lama come about and who were the Panchen Lama regarded as? The 1st Panchen Lama, Khedrup Gelek Pelzang (1385-1438), was a disciple of Tsongkapa, the monk whose teachings formed the foundation of the Gelug school. After Khedrup Rinpoche’s death a Tibetan boy named Sonam Choklang was recognized as his tulku, or rebirth. A lineage of reborn lamas was established.
The title “Panchen Lama, was given by the 5th Dalai Lama to the fourth lama in Khedrup Rinpoche’s lineage. This lama, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen, is remembered as the 4th Panchen Lama, although he was the first lama to hold the title in his life. As well as being a spiritual descendent of Khedrup, the Panchen Lama also is considered to be an emanation of Amitabah Buddha.
2 Jun 18, 11:21 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you @Wai Meng and all the extra good information _/|\_2 Jun 18, 11:21 AM
Pastor Antoinette: Joy_Moderator: A1 "How did the first Panchen Lama come about" In the 17th century the fifth Dalai Lama declared that his tutor, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen (1570–1662), who was the current Panchen Lama, would be reincarnated in a child. He thus became the first of the line of reincarnated lamas named Panchen Lamas who are regarded as physical manifestations of the Buddha Amitabah.2 Jun 18, 11:21 AM
Sofi: A1 : In the 17th century, His Holiness the 5th Dalai Lama gave his teacher, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen, the then abbot of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery, the title of Panchen Lama, and declared that he would be reincarnated in a child, and that he would continue to be reborn in an unbroken lineage of successors. The Panchen Lama is regarded as the manifestation of Buddha Amitabah2 Jun 18, 11:20 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Pastor Adeline your answer is right 2 Jun 18, 11:20 AM
Wan Wai Meng: 1. How did the first Panchen Lama come about and who were the Panchen Lama regarded as? A. Panchen Lama Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen (1570-1662) (the title Panchen Lama was given to this incarnation lineage by the 4th Dalai Lama). He was thought to be, the 4th ever Panchen Lama.
The earlier Panchen Lamas 1st till 3rd were recognized posthumously as a result of this rank bestowed by His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
The 4th Panchen Lama incidentally was also the teacher of Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen, when Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen was at Zimkhang Gomang, Upper House of Drepung Monastery.
2 Jun 18, 11:19 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thank you Pastor Shin... most important answer was in your 3rd paragraph 2 Jun 18, 11:18 AM
Grace Tan: Good morning Rinpoche, moderator and everyone.2 Jun 18, 11:18 AM
Joy_Moderator: 2. Describe the 9th Panchen Lama’s relationship with the 13th Dalai Lama? Who did the 9th Panchen Lama help identify?2 Jun 18, 11:17 AM
Pastor Shin: A1. The Panchen Lama lineage dates back to 1385, when the first Panchen Lama Khedrup Geleg Pal Sangpo lived, and since then, Tibetan history has seen the seamless reincarnations of Panchen Lamas until today. Traditionally, the abbots of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery, which was built in Shigatse by His Holiness the first Dalai Lama, were known as Panchen, owing to their scholarly reputation.
In the 17th century, His Holiness the 5th Dalai Lama gave his teacher, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen, the then abbot of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery, the title of Panchen Lama, and declared that he would be reincarnated in a child, and that he would continue to be reborn in an unbroken lineage of successors.The Panchen Lama, a manifestation of Buddha Amitabah, ranks as the highest Tibetan Buddhist religious figure next to His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
2 Jun 18, 11:17 AM
Joy_Moderator: 1. How did the first Panchen Lama come about and who were the Panchen Lama regarded as? - The first Panchen Lama came about when the 5th Dalai Lama, during the 17th century declared that his tutor, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen (1570–1662), the then abbot of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery, would be reincarnated as a child. He would then became the first in line of reincarnated lamas called the Panchen Lamas and he would continue to be reborn in an unbroken lineage of successors. - They were regarded as physical manifestations of the Buddha Amitabah. - The Panchen Lamas rank as the highest Tibetan Buddhist religious figure next to His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Spiritually Panchen Lama is on par with the Dalai Lama.
2 Jun 18, 11:17 AM
Joy_Moderator: @Valentina you're not wrong but did quite answer how he came about.. how it all began... which was when HH the 5th Dalai Lama... take a look at the answers below 2 Jun 18, 11:17 AM
Asyley: Morning Rinpoche and all2 Jun 18, 11:16 AM
Joy_Moderator: Good morning Alice, welcome to blogchat 2 Jun 18, 11:16 AM
Valentina: ANS 1. : The first Panchen Lama was a disciple of Lama Tsongkhapa, Khedrup Gelek Pelzang. Khedrup was one of the founders of Gelugpa lineage and credited with promoting and defending Tsongkapa’s work.Panchen Lamas are regarded as the emanation of Amitacha Buddha.
2 Jun 18, 11:15 AM
Joy_Moderator: Hi @Wai Meng you are right, that's the first, but how it came about was when when the 5th Dalai Lama, during the 17th century declared that his tutor, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen (1570–1662), the then abbot of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery, would be reincarnated as a child 2 Jun 18, 11:15 AM
Lin Mun: Good morning Rinpoche and everyone2 Jun 18, 11:15 AM
Pastor Adeline: A1. The fifth Dalai Lama declared that his tutor, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen (1570–1662), who was the current Panchen Lama, would be reincarnated in a child. Thus he became the first Panchen Lamas who are regarded as the line of reincarnated lamas that are the physical manifestations of Buddha Amitabha.2 Jun 18, 11:14 AM
Alice: Good monring Rinpoche, Joy and everyone.2 Jun 18, 11:14 AM
Joy_Moderator: Thanks @Adrian your answer is correct2 Jun 18, 11:13 AM
Wan Wai Meng: 1. How did the first Panchen Lama come about and who were the Panchen Lama regarded as? A.The first ever Panchen Lama dates back to 1385, the first one was called Lama Khedrup Geleg Pal Sangpo lived, and since then, the Panchen Lama has reincarnated back to benefit sentient beings.
Traditionally, the abbots of Tashi Lhunpo Monastery, which was built in Shigatse by His Holiness the first Dalai Lama, were known as Panchen, owing to their scholarly reputation. "Panchen" is an abbreviation of "Pandita" and "Chenpo", meaning "Great scholar".
Panchen Lamas are known to be emanations of Amitabha.
2 Jun 18, 11:13 AM
Joy_Moderator: Good morning Adrian, nice to see you here! 2 Jun 18, 11:13 AM
adrian chow: A1. In the 17th century the fifth Dalai Lama declared that his tutor, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen (1570–1662), who was the current Panchen Lama, would be reincarnated in a child. He thus became the first of the line of reincarnated lamas named Panchen Lamas who are regarded as physical manifestations of the Buddha Amitabah.2 Jun 18, 11:13 AM
adrian chow: Good Morning Rinpoche, good morning Joy and everyone2 Jun 18, 11:13 AM
Joy_Moderator: @Pastor Antoinette your answer is not wrong but did not quite answer the question on "How did the first Panchen Lama come about". Take a look at Chris's answer 2 Jun 18, 11:10 AM
Joy_Moderator: Yes you are correct and fast Chris! And... the Panchen Lamas rank as the highest Tibetan Buddhist religious figure next to His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Spiritually Panchen Lama is on par with the Dalai Lama.2 Jun 18, 11:10 AM
Pastor Antoinette: 1. How did the first Panchen Lama come about and who were the Panchen Lama regarded as? The great Panchen Lama has had a long line of incarnations that stem back to the time of the historical Buddha. The Panchen Lama, a manifestation of Buddha Amitabah, ranks as the highest Tibetan Buddhist religious figure next to His Holiness the Dalai Lama. The title Panchen means great scholar, and is derived from the Sanskrit term Pandita meaning scholar, and Tibetan word chen-po meaning great. The Panchen Lama lineage dates back to 1385, when the first Panchen Lama Khedrup Geleg Pal Sangpo lived, and since then, Tibetan history has seen the seamless reincarnations of Panchen Lamas until today.
2 Jun 18, 11:09 AM
Chris Chong: A1 : In the 17th century the fifth Dalai Lama declared that his tutor, Lobsang Chokyi Gyaltsen (1570–1662), who was the current Panchen Lama, would be reincarnated in a child. He thus became the first of the line of reincarnated lamas named Panchen Lamas who are regarded as physical manifestations of the Buddha Amitabah.2 Jun 18, 11:08 AM
Joy_Moderator: Good morning Pastor Antoinette